Britain will leave the EU on time, PM Johnson's adviser Cummings says

[Amma09]

6 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Maybe wise to use the same tactic as Nawalny advised his followers in Russia: smart voting. You want for sure a "REMAIN"? Vote for the only party, who will do its utmost for that: LibDem. With the British democratic system the one with the most votes per constituency get the seat, the others nothing, and with 50% +1 of the 650 seats, you have the government.

IF.. the French already 17 Oct do not make an end to all discussions.

Farage is indeed like Russia, his homebase. 

 

Not an important factor as long as we see the larger picture. Farage, like Russia, likes to present himself as an pivotal point. 

 

But fortunately we are able to see through them.

 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Amma09 said:

Farage is indeed like Russia, his homebase. 

 

Not an important factor as long as we see the larger picture. Farage, like Russia, likes to present himself as an pivotal point. 

 

But fortunately we are able to see through them.

 

Naturally you have links and threads to back up your words.

 

If you have none then IMHO your post is bovine excretia.

[puipuitom]

3 hours ago, Amma09 said:

Farage is indeed like Russia, his homebase. 

 

Not an important factor as long as we see the larger picture. Farage, like Russia, likes to present himself as an pivotal point. 

 

But fortunately we are able to see through them.

Over 30 % of the British NOT ! 

Till of course.. their company has to loose some workers, caused by fall of export orders, and..have to line up for a Schengen visa.

On the other hand: the British pound went from € 1,40 down to € 1,12 and no riots, no uprising, so .. probably the British do not care. Maybe after they return from holidays ? 

How all look to the rise of imported products prices, and less revenu for the British exports... for me even a bigger question.

[beautifulthailand99]

Advisory. Period. Get over it.

 

This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of 2017. It does not contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type  of  referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not
have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution

 

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2019/09/10/CBP-7212.pdf

 

 

[kingdong]

On 9/10/2019 at 2:47 PM, beautifulthailand99 said:

Father in laws castle

https://chillingham-castle.com/

An Englishmans home is his castle

[kingdong]

4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

There is only one poll which counts, and all of we British should be given the opportunity to participate in it and cast our votes in a final, legally binding referendum.

And if you lose that then how many more referendums will you want?,Boris offered you a " people's vote" a general election no less and you bottled it.

[StreetCowboy]

3 minutes ago, kingdong said:

And if you lose that then how many more referendums will you want?,Boris offered you a " people's vote" a general election no less and you bottled it.

"offered", not "gave".  I'd rather respond to an internet loan offer.

[kingdong]

18 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Advisory. Period. Get over it.

 

This Bill requires a referendum to be held on the question of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union (EU) before the end of
2017. It does not contain any requirement for the UK Government to implement the results of the referendum, nor set a time limit by which a
vote to leave the EU should be implemented. Instead, this is a type of referendum known as pre-legislative or consultative, which enables the
electorate to voice an opinion which then influences the Government in its policy decisions. The referendums held in Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland in 1997 and 1998 are examples of this type, where opinion was tested before legislation was introduced. The UK does not
have constitutional provisions which would require the results of a referendum to be implemented, unlike, for example, the Republic of
Ireland, where the circumstances in which a binding referendum should be held are set out in its constitution

 

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2019/09/10/CBP-7212.pdf

 

 

Cameron made it clear his party would honour the result,get over it.

[Amma09]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Naturally you have links and threads to back up your words.

 

If you have none then IMHO your post is bovine excretia.

I'm not going to challenge you. I wish you to question yourself when the time is right. 

[beautifulthailand99]

6 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Cameron made it clear his party would honour the result,get over it.

And he resigned straight after. As did May. As will Johnson. Get over it. 

[StreetCowboy]

5 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Cameron made it clear his party would honour the result,get over it.

Like Boris, Cameron failed to deliver on his promises. 
What the Prime Minister says is what the Prime Minster says. 
What Parliament passes is law*.  \

 

* generally speaking.

[kingdong]

23 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

"offered", not "gave".  I'd rather respond to an internet loan offer.

He couldn,t give, it got voted out by all the mps who previously stated let's " have people's vote,let democracy prevail,let's have another referendum"then bottled it.

[Loiner]

 
The typical Leaver response to polls which show that Remain is now more popular than Leave.
 
Yet polls showing the opposite are treated by you lot as Holy Writ! 
 
There is only one poll which counts, and all of we British should be given the opportunity to participate in it and cast our votes in a final, legally binding referendum.

Here, have a piece of holy writ:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1176414/brexit-latest-news-eu-uk-exit-no-deal-latest-boris-johnson-uk-politics

Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround
A NEW poll has revealed that 35 percent of Remainers now want Brexit to be delivered.
By JOEL DAY
00:25, Wed, Sep 11, 2019 | UPDATED: 16:11, Wed, Sep 11, 2019

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  

[beautifulthailand99]

17 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Why isn't it called the no deal Brexit party , that would be the honest truth.

Or the No Brain Farage Loser's Brexit Party Run by Rich People Who Are Not Elitist - Oh No , that would also be the honest truth. ????????????

[Laughing Gravy]

16 hours ago, david555 said:

Only if eternal fishing rights granted in return ….. A small price for freedom I would say....

Of course the Dutch can pay 3 times the price for each fish. Its only fair.

[Laughing Gravy]

8 hours ago, kingdong said:

Cameron made it clear his party would honour the result,get over it.

You are right and so did Labour. Then changed its mind, then changed its n mind again and well nobody knows what the Labour party would honour, except themselves.

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Of course the Dutch can pay 3 times the price for each fish. Its only fair.

And in return britain can pay 3 times the price for a pair of clogs.

[kingdong]

6 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

You are right and so did Labour. Then changed its mind, then changed its n mind again and well nobody knows what the Labour party would honour, except themselves.

!abours done more u turns than an uber driver with a broken sat nav

[Laughing Gravy]

16 minutes ago, kingdong said:

And in return britain can pay 3 times the price for a pair of clogs.

The point is who wants clogs. mmmm fish or clogs. No brainer.

[Orac]

Cummings: "Go speak to people outside London."

 

Next day highest UK court outside London finds him guilty of lying to the Queen.

 

Cummings: "No not those people"

 

[soalbundy]

22 hours ago, jinners said:

Maybe you don't but the vast majority of us Northeners do.

It was you lot that invented the game of catching toenail clippings in a butterfly net and expecting it to be an olympic discipline

[SheungWan]

And if you lose that then how many more referendums will you want?,Boris offered you a " people's vote" a general election no less and you bottled it.

Hard Brexiteers a little snarled up here. Have to put the "people's vote" label on the next election to get them out of the bind that only the 2016 referendum vote mattered (plus the no-deal spin). Tied up in knots.

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[SheungWan]

Here, have a piece of holy writ:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1176414/brexit-latest-news-eu-uk-exit-no-deal-latest-boris-johnson-uk-politics

Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround
A NEW poll has revealed that 35 percent of Remainers now want Brexit to be delivered.
By JOEL DAY
00:25, Wed, Sep 11, 2019 | UPDATED: 16:11, Wed, Sep 11, 2019

The biggest u-turn is the Hard Brexiteer permanent one of denying/supporting the result of poll results when it suits.

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[SheungWan]

Neither of which situations would qualify him as ''Rich''.  Ignorant statements.

So then, Cummings is quite "poor" with his £1.6m townhouse and family castle. In comparison to Boris and Rees-Mogg presumably.

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[zorrow424]

3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

The biggest u-turn is the Hard Brexiteer permanent one of denying/supporting the result of poll results when it suits.

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Just who is doing this polling?  You?.   The only poll that wants adhering to is the 2016 one,and will be delivered on time and 6 weeks to go,no doubting that

[7by7]

17 hours ago, kingdong said:

22 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

There is only one poll which counts, and all of we British should be given the opportunity to participate in it and cast our votes in a final, legally binding referendum.

And if you lose that then how many more referendums will you want?,Boris offered you a " people's vote" a general election no less and you bottled it.

 

You want a people's vote?

 

By it's very definition a referendum is more of a people's vote than a General Election when most of the people who vote will do so on party lines.

 

The constituency where I live voted 'Remain' in 2016, but our MP is an out and out Brexiteer. However, I can guarantee that he will be returned at any election simply because this is a an ultra Tory safe seat and they would win if they put a donkey up as candidate. Or even Boris!

 

Boris tried to trick Parliament into an election at a date of his choosing; Parliament didn't let him get away with that trick. That's not bottling it; bottling it is Boris proroguing Parliament for five weeks so he can avoid awkward questions!

 

 

[zorrow424]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 

You want a people's vote?

 

By it's very definition a referendum is more of a people's vote than a general Election when most of the people who vote will do so on party lines.

 

The constituency where I live voted 'Remain' in 2016, but our MP is an out and out Brexiteer. However, I can guarantee that he will be returned at any election simply because this is a an ultra Tory safe seat and they would win if they put a donkey up as candidate.

 

Boris tried to trick Parliament into an election at a date of his choosing; Parliament didn't let him get away with that trick. That's not bottling it; bottling it is Boris proroguing Parliament for five weeks so he can avoid awkward questions!

 

 

Absolutely up to Boris to call the shots. Its been 3 years,three years of "awkward questioning"  how much more time needed?

  Nobody knows the absolute outcome of anything,but if anything the positives are now about to be unveiled as to deal/no deal,but without a doubt Brexit is about to happen

[7by7]

17 hours ago, kingdong said:

Cameron made it clear his party would honour the result,get over it.

 Yet Parliament, including the treacherous Rees-Mogg, prevented his successor from doing just that.

 

Give the people the choice in a final, legally binding referendum and this time Parliament, the government, or whoever you want to blame for the fiasco this has become, won't be able to block it.

 

[7by7]

16 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

 

Here, have a piece of holy writ:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1176414/brexit-latest-news-eu-uk-exit-no-deal-latest-boris-johnson-uk-politics

Brexit U-turn: More than a third of Remainers now want EU exit in huge turnaround
A NEW poll has revealed that 35 percent of Remainers now want Brexit to be delivered.
By JOEL DAY
00:25, Wed, Sep 11, 2019 | UPDATED: 16:11, Wed, Sep 11, 2019

 

 

 

Thank you for yet again proving my point for me.

 

In case you missed it, I repeat, there is only one poll which counts, and all of we British should be given the opportunity to participate in it and cast our votes in a final, legally binding referendum.

 

If you are so confident in the polls whose results you prefer, why you so terrified of having that vote?