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By taking 'No Deal' off the table 'Brexit' is not, in any real sense, now possible. 
 
The 'EU' has to agree the deal, the 'EU' wants the 'UK' to 'Remain', therefore any 'Deal' will require the 'UK' to effectively remain within the 'EU' as whatever 'Deal' they agree to, is one which leaves the 'UK' subject to all 'EU' rules and regulations, with 'No Voting'; or Remain as a fully participating member with a position even less advantageous than it has at present. 
 
All the EEC/EC/EU 'treaties' have pointed in one direction, a 'Federal State' ruled by a 'Federal' government at a massive cost to the tax payer.  
 
The duplicity of these 'MPs' who were elected via their parties manifestos to effect Brexit is destroying the public's trust in 'Parliament' and democracy. What a disgraceful and hypocritical lot they are.
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The MPs in their Westminster bubble remind me of student union politics in the 70s. Crass and self absorbed.

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10 hours ago, Victornoir said:

Stop with that.
It is obvious that the parliament should pass a law making the second referendum binding, definitive and immediately applicable with a pre-defined agenda.

 

That would require changing the constitution. Not a quick process.

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2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

mustn't scare the voters with what a no deal could imply must we.....Lying to the Queen eh...only Andrew is allowed to get away with that. 

 

To be fair, Johnson lies to everybody, regularly. So HMQ should not feel she was treated differently.

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3 minutes ago, whitemouse said:

Great observation! 

 

Also, do brexiteers even remember WHY they wanted to leave EU in the first place? What was the point, other than crashing UK's economy? Remember, all of this was ONLY to get rid of Polish and Romanian laborers? Do you enjoy the 'control' now? Was it worth it? Do brexiteers even realize Islamists do not enter UK from EU, Pakistan is not part of EU nor Schengen. 

 

At this point it seems one side simply wishes to 'win', even if winning means disaster for UK, it is almost like burning  down your own house because you no longer like the wallpaper.

Isn't the whole point of brexit to be a winner?

 

 

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Great day for Leavers. The 17.4m who voted for our democratically elected Sovereign Parliament to take back control of lawmaking, and for independent UK courts to take back control of interpreting law.

Today your wishes have been implemented. Rejoice!

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11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

3 most likely options are...

 

1. Challenge/test the law in the courts. Exit the EU while it's going through the process.

2. Let Britain veto it's own request for an extension. 

3. Convince one of the other member states to veto the request by threatening to become a menace in the European Parliament (veto everything, regularly demonstrate and ignore protocol etc.). The Brexit party can help with this.

 

Quite a few other options as well. This is far from over but the government are keeping quiet on which option they will take to avoid Parliament plotting against it. Good Luck Boris, together, the people and the government can overcome this colluding, traitorous Parliament,

 

Haha 

 

1) It would be expedited so no chance of that 

 

2) Illegal 

 

3) Never going to happen - infact the smart money is on a longer extension in order to kick it firmly into the long grass. 

 

Finally ‘the people’ ??? You seriously still think the U.K. populace still wants leave ?? It was only 25% in 2016, much less now. The games up - someone needs to put the leavers out of their misery.

 

Second referendum (which no assured leaver would reject) and we can all move on. 

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1 hour ago, Libai said:
By taking 'No Deal' off the table 'Brexit' is not, in any real sense, now possible. 
 
The 'EU' has to agree the deal, the 'EU' wants the 'UK' to 'Remain', therefore any 'Deal' will require the 'UK' to effectively remain within the 'EU' as whatever 'Deal' they agree to, is one which leaves the 'UK' subject to all 'EU' rules and regulations, with 'No Voting'; or Remain as a fully participating member with a position even less advantageous than it has at present. 
 
All the EEC/EC/EU 'treaties' have pointed in one direction, a 'Federal State' ruled by a 'Federal' government at a massive cost to the tax payer.  
 
The duplicity of these 'MPs' who were elected via their parties manifestos to effect Brexit is destroying the public's trust in 'Parliament' and democracy. What a disgraceful and hypocritical lot they are.

Best stay in the EU then, if Parliament can't be trusted. Folks need to eat and pay bills while they continue to squabble. We need to be governed by someone.

So much for taking back control... 

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50 minutes ago, whitemouse said:

Win what, though? How is leaving biggest economic union a win?

 

The only winner is Russia, weaker EU means stronger Russia. Biggest winner  in long term is China, it is easier to dictate trade terms with individual nations, next to China any European country is tiny and insignificant. 

I agree fully with you. But the brexiteers still think they are the Winners of this mess. 

 

That's important to notice.

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