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What options are left for British PM Johnson on Brexit?

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5 minutes ago, vogie said:

to keep bringing up the idea of another referendum is an insult to most peoples intelligence.

You’re insulting people who voted to leave without a deal by leaving with a deal, and you’re insulting people who voted to leave with a deal by leaving without a deal. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Wouldn't solve anything. The Lib Dem leader said she would continue to vote against Brexit in Parliament even if Leave won again. It would just delay things another year and we'd be back where we are now.

 

Stop with that.
It is obvious that the parliament should pass a law making the second referendum binding, definitive and immediately applicable with a pre-defined agenda.

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2 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

Stop with that.
It is obvious that the parliament should pass a law making the second referendum binding, definitive and immediately applicable with a pre-defined agenda.

You mean like the law stating we'd leave at the end of October, deal or no deal.

 

Yeah, no way Parliament would change their minds and revise/append that legislation, right? 🙈🙉         🤣

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9 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

You’re insulting people who voted to leave without a deal by leaving with a deal, and you’re insulting people who voted to leave with a deal by leaving without a deal. 

 

 

Nobody voted to Leave with a deal or without a deal.

 

There were only 2 options, Leave or Remain. Leaving with no deal is leaving, is it not? If it is not leaving, please tell me what it is.

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1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Why are they so adamant about getting out of the EU on the 31st of October?

Because in January an EU law comes into effect that would force them to reveal and declare their finances and where they are hiding it.

They would have to pay tax on those earnings. Even if it comes from abroad.

Tax is only for poor people. Rich elites believe they should not have to pay tax.

More to the point I would not think there are many actual MP's in that boat but many may well have friends and contributors of election funds who are, funny how a party contributor will donate more to a political party than they avoid in paying in tax...

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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Nobody voted to Leave with a deal or without a deal.

That’s not true, otherwise the ERG wouldn’t block leaving with a deal, and others wouldn’t block leaving without a deal. Those people, quote obviously, voted to leave without a deal or with a deal, respectively. 

 

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There were only 2 options, Leave or Remain. Leaving with no deal is leaving, is it not? If it is not leaving, please tell me what it is.

You should tell that the voters who are blocking to leave, aka the ERG and other MPs. 

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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Nobody voted to Leave with a deal or without a deal.

 

There were only 2 options, Leave or Remain. Leaving with no deal is leaving, is it not? If it is not leaving, please tell me what it is.

But so is leaving and joining EFTA and so is leaving and accepting the WA - which one does the referendum give a mandate for ?

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17 minutes ago, tebee said:

"The people have spoken and should never be allowed to speak again "

Not if it's going to be ignored, seriously what is the point of voting if it's going to be ignored, no point.

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20 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

You’re insulting people who voted to leave without a deal by leaving with a deal, and you’re insulting people who voted to leave with a deal by leaving without a deal. 

 

 

Making things up and trying to pass them of as credible is not going to work this time either.

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31 minutes ago, vogie said:

The British people have had their say, they voted leave. And to keep bringing up the idea of another referendum is an insult to most peoples intelligence. MPs have already stated publicly that if and when leave won again that they would not honour that referendum, so surely most people would have to agree the sheer futility of having another referendum when only the result of 'remain' would be accepted. Democracy remain style?

BRINO is a form of leave so would that be acceptable?

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30 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Wouldn't solve anything. The Lib Dem leader said she would continue to vote against Brexit in Parliament even if Leave won again. It would just delay things another year and we'd be back where we are now.

 

I am sure the Lib/Dem MP's will follow the mandate of their party conference, and Revoke A50 will be the option of choice, but I doubt they will rule out a second referendum as they believe that it will call for revoking A50 anyway.

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21 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

Stop with that.
It is obvious that the parliament should pass a law making the second referendum binding, definitive and immediately applicable with a pre-defined agenda.

It would only take an act of parliament to repeal that law.

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27 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

Stop with that.
It is obvious that the parliament should pass a law making the second referendum binding, definitive and immediately applicable with a pre-defined agenda.

If a referendum is binding then it should only be if it has a clear majority, and 2% is no way a clear majority.

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5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

BRINO is a form of leave so would that be acceptable?

Brino is a form of remain. There is only one form of leave.

 

"depart from, go away from, go from, withdraw from, retire from, take oneself off from, exit from, take one's leave of, pull out of, quit, be gone from, decamp from, disappear from, abandon, vacate, absent oneself from, evacuate"

 

Nowhere there does it say leave one foot in the door.

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