unamazedloso Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I desperately want to leave and take my wife and children back to Aus. Weve spent a fortune here and at our age we arent going to have adequate funds to make a descent transition so just cant comfortably do it. With constant neighbourly issues and corruption of local officials constantly making up stories and such i will probably be deported based on lies soon enough. Not exaggerating, had police with machine guns search our house for illegal things a couple days ago just because im a farang, hate Thailand! Been here for a few decades half my life now and regret not getting out sooner. Will probably write a book about all the drama one day from abroad i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, unamazedloso said: had police with machine guns ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 15 hours ago, rtco said: I wish ... not seen anything yet Ditto. Not a bean ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, unamazedloso said: I desperately want to leave and take my wife and children back to Aus. Weve spent a fortune here and at our age we arent going to have adequate funds to make a descent transition so just cant comfortably do it. With constant neighbourly issues and corruption of local officials constantly making up stories and such i will probably be deported based on lies soon enough. Not exaggerating, had police with machine guns search our house for illegal things a couple days ago just because im a farang, hate Thailand! Been here for a few decades half my life now and regret not getting out sooner. Will probably write a book about all the drama one day from abroad i reckon. Are you the machete & jet-ski vandal in Pattaya perchance? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, daveAustin said: one of those non-country Belgiums. A Mr.Farage expression is not something we, Belgians, consider as notable. However since always we live in a divided country (Flemish & Walloon). Apparently something Great Britain is encounter nowadays as well (Leavers & Remainers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Lacessit said: Yes they do. The difference is, many in Western countries are complete lardasses, backed by a legal system that favours them. Seen quite a few "lardarses over here lately. What's the problem? Built for comfort not speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Lacessit said: I can sympathize with that, lost about quarter of a million (AUD ) to unlisted property trusts during the GFC. My biggest beef is with ASIC, useless bastards. They continue to be ineffectual regulators, while contributing $800 million in compliance fees to Federal Government coffers. Don't get me on the subject of those useless idiots at ASIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Seen quite a few "lardarses over here lately. What's the problem? Built for comfort not speed. True. However, on percentage a lot lower. No problem, my preference is a cute butt, not one that overflows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk21 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 16 hours ago, sanemax said: Could be many/most people do not go to Thailand for females , females exist in every Country in the World yes they do and have you seen them 5555555555555555555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmushr00m Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I have to admit for me I have to agree with Keith for point #1. Moving back was stressful. I was making the same money but paying higher taxes and of course a higher cost of living. The "normal" lifestyle we had in Thailand suddenly became a luxury. Work life balance is a big difference too. Here it's work, go home, sleep repeat. And of course the winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Tomahawk21 said: yes they do and have you seen them 5555555555555555555555 Thai girls are young , pretty , slim and horny and girls from every other country are old, fat , ugly and frigid and thats why men go to Thailand for prostitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk21 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, sanemax said: Thai girls are young , pretty , slim and horny and girls from every other country are old, fat , ugly and frigid and thats why men go to Thailand for prostitution i agree with you 100% ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Scot123 said: I returned to the UK 5 months ago with my family after living in Thailand for 9 years. We are all loving being back. We could have remained in Thailand as had enough of an income however the decision to move back was mostly due to immigration attitude and uncertainty what tomorrow might bring (having 6 police vehicles turn up at my house full of police did not help). Last October I started comparing prices and found UK was far cheaper for us. I hated driving in Thailand and now am enjoying driving. The quality of the food is far better here and I do not need to worry about slowly being poisoned and I'm even eating fish here. Utility bills were worrying me but at the moment I'm only paying £50 a month. I don't drive a 3lt suv so my costs are half what I was paying. So happy to be home. Obviously we miss friends and the sun but we have had far more barbecues here than in Thai (dengue twice kind of makes you think twice). Love Thailand shame what they have done to her since 2006. We will go there for holidays only. Oh clothes are cheaper here than Thailand it's unbelievable. Hi Scott , Which part of the UK do you live now ? I have a house in the Hampshire and visit at least once or twice a year . There is no doubt that the UK has changed a lot regarding the multi culturalism which would be obvious after a 9 year absence . I agree with you on the cost of living especially food where there are the smaller supermarkets e.g. , Lidls , Morrisons ,Aldi completing with the big boys and driving down prices . Beer & wine & spirits much cheaper than Thailand and a big selection . Cars are cheap especially used but insurance / car tax has to be factored in . Utility bills can be scary , doctors appointments can take 2 or 3 weeks for non urgent cases . Education at a much higher level than Thailand . Entertainment , TV etc, spoiled for choice in the UK . Downside has to be the weather with winter & autumn dragging on for 7 or 8 months . Overall I think it is unfair to compare 3rd world Thailand to the UK because one mans meat is another mans poison . I just wish I could tolerate the blistering heat here starting March and onward . I am now considering spending 3 months here and same in the UK repeating . Might have a spell in Vietnam as I am curious about good reports I read on this forum . Good luck for you and your family in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 15 hours ago, HHTel said: Really? What a small world you live in! Oh really? you have a Thai wife? GF? you came here for the temples right? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 hours ago, sanemax said: Could be many/most people do not go to Thailand for females , females exist in every Country in the World You can't be serious! how funny. Thailand (and possibly Philippines) are the cheap sex centers of the world. Many come here (forgive the pun) because you can openly find a bar scene in every city, try that in most other countries. Even if your 'pure heart' doesn't like it THAT is the truth LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhickson Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 10:03 AM, BobBKK said: No one misses the girls? wow! that's the main reason most come here but I guess most have taken there's back with them (good luck with that!). that's why most come here initially. the novelty soon wears off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, fhickson said: that's why most come here initially. the novelty soon wears off. Hmmm not for me I love it! and my friends, even most of those who are married. Who wants Pizza everyday? variety is the spice of life so enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot123 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 hours ago, luckyluke said: In my personal case because I am Belgian. No money needed in a Thai bank, no 65000 needed to be transferred monthly to Thailand. Happy with this system since 2000. Of course it can change tomorrow, hence the need to have a plan B, even C. And byif you are American, Australian, British, things are not that easy. Wow. I am so surprised and its true what they say you live and learn. I did not know Belgium have special dispensation with Thailand. Having to do my annual extentions were very stressful: photos of my wife, our 2 children and myself sitting on our bed and in front of our house, 6 months Bank statements plus bank book showing the required foreign currency going into the bank a letter from the embassy stating pension from the UK which is no longer given. There were 2 straws that broke the camels back for me 1st 6 police vehicles turning up at my house full of police to check my status and October 2018 when I went to immigration to check changes in rules and the girl said to me "Its only 800,000baht". However this is about the differences in living back home and Thailand. I personally did not have to leave Thailand because I could not afford to stay but because of as you correctly put it things can change and uncertainty is no way to live. The thing that worried me is the cloud hanging in the distance about compulsory health care (I would not qualify or would be so expensive). I checked out the cost of living in the UK and Thailand and in many cases I was shocked at the tables having turned and UK had become cheaper. What shocked me the most was clothes in the UK now cheaper than Thailand and food. We are very happy as a family we are now back in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Scot123 said: Attitude problem because I do not have the same rose coloured glasses as you? Do you have an extention as I'm thinking not. The new immigration rules which were brought in (around about February 2019 states you require "Retirement visa" 800,000baht in your bank account for 3 months before renewal and must remain for 3 months after renewal. You may use 400,000baht of this over the next 6 months but again 3 months prior to renewal 800,000baht has to be in your account. So if you are not doing this it begs the question why? (maybe you use an agent which is illegal so makes you a criminal) Maybe your just such an important person in your village you do not have to bother with these trivial things. As for the flippent remark about prices all over the world go up well not as fast as in Thailand and that is a fact. Before we left I started comparing prices between Thailand and the UK and its far more expensive in Thailand and by a long shot. I still do this every time we go shopping or buy clothes. It is so sad that what you buy in Thailand is junk now. I bought a house worth of furniture and was shocked at getting things like 12 year guarantees etc.... I almost forgot you should go and visit the poor Dutch guy and his Thai wife who will never see the light of day again as all their assets are gone so they can never be released (falsely inprisoned). I could tell you story after story about the expats who find themselves in prison through no fault of their own but hay your OK Jack. My experience of Thailand is more than village life, from diving instructor Kow tow to teacher in Bkk but hay only 17 years with 2 coups under my belt so I know nothing. OMFG!!! Well done for getting my name correct. As for the rest you have no idea of who I am, whether I have an extension or not (FYI, yes I do for the tenth year in a row). The new Immigration rules actually were promulgated in December 2018 and became effective in January 2019, quote from your post. "You are correct that 800,000 for a retirement extension and 400,000 for a marriage extension. You omitted to mention that an extension may also be granted on income alone. So if you are not doing this it begs the question why? (maybe you use an agent which is illegal so makes you a criminal). You now believe that I am a criminal? You assume this without knowing anything about me, without knowledge of the Immigration laws, without proof. quote"My experience of Thailand is more than village life, from diving instructor Kow tow to teacher in Bkk but hay only 17 years with 2 coups under my belt so I know nothing. OMFG!!!" My experience of working in Thailand is obviously less impressive that yours and I only have village life to rely on. Apart from 7 years working with Motorola , AIS and DTAC building and integrating 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation cellular systems in Issan, BKK and the Eastern seaboard. A job incidentally I have done in some 30 different countries stretching back to my first trip here in 1993. Yes I also have been in Thailand for 2 coups and also for the 1997 Tom yam gung financial crash. quote"but hay only 17 years with 2 coups under my belt so I know nothing. OMFG!!!" I have to agree with you on your last line. Sorry to have burst your bubble of how long you have been here, how much you know about Immigration laws and the really hard working jobs you have done. My overall impression of your post is 3/10. Must try harder and do some research before you post. Also never call anyone a criminal unless you have the proof and can back it up. It seems from post #74 and #79 you don't even live in Thailand any more. Why does that not surprise me. 22 hours ago, Scot123 said: I returned to the UK 5 months ago with my family after living in Thailand for 9 years. We are all loving being back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, Scot123 said: I did not know Belgium have special dispensation with Thailand. Thailand made special regulations for America, Australia and Great Britain, as the embassies of these 3 countries didn't/don't issue Letter of Income/Affidavit for their citizens anymore. For the rest of the world there is still the possibility to obtain an extension based on income in home country. So far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Please supply evidence. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appGo and live in my old home town and see for yourself.i kid you not,but you will never want to see.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Cheeseman,at it again.Lord help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot123 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 hours ago, billd766 said: Well done for getting my name correct. As for the rest you have no idea of who I am, whether I have an extension or not (FYI, yes I do for the tenth year in a row). The new Immigration rules actually were promulgated in December 2018 and became effective in January 2019, quote from your post. "You are correct that 800,000 for a retirement extension and 400,000 for a marriage extension. You omitted to mention that an extension may also be granted on income alone. So if you are not doing this it begs the question why? (maybe you use an agent which is illegal so makes you a criminal). You now believe that I am a criminal? You assume this without knowing anything about me, without knowledge of the Immigration laws, without proof. quote"My experience of Thailand is more than village life, from diving instructor Kow tow to teacher in Bkk but hay only 17 years with 2 coups under my belt so I know nothing. OMFG!!!" My experience of working in Thailand is obviously less impressive that yours and I only have village life to rely on. Apart from 7 years working with Motorola , AIS and DTAC building and integrating 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation cellular systems in Issan, BKK and the Eastern seaboard. A job incidentally I have done in some 30 different countries stretching back to my first trip here in 1993. Yes I also have been in Thailand for 2 coups and also for the 1997 Tom yam gung financial crash. quote"but hay only 17 years with 2 coups under my belt so I know nothing. OMFG!!!" I have to agree with you on your last line. Sorry to have burst your bubble of how long you have been here, how much you know about Immigration laws and the really hard working jobs you have done. My overall impression of your post is 3/10. Must try harder and do some research before you post. Also never call anyone a criminal unless you have the proof and can back it up. It seems from post #74 and #79 you don't even live in Thailand any more. Why does that not surprise me. 22 hours ago, Scot123 said: I returned to the UK 5 months ago with my family after living in Thailand for 9 years. We are all loving being back. Wow! The whole post is about expats who left Thailand and returned home. Actually I was as much as you can be familiar with immigration rules considering in October the dust had not settled about embassies telling Thai immigration to wind their necks in about verifying income letters (unlike many on here I never once blamed the British embassy over this issue). Fact in October I went to the immigration office to check on the rules so please wind your neck in. I quoted their answer "only 800,000baht". It was my wife who told me to check As we were about to start building a large extension in a couple of days. It was you who said you did not have to do anything ie have 800,000/400,000baht in your account etc.... This was surprising to me as its the rules. Now yes they did bring out later that bank account history could be used but that was not the case for 3 months. Again fact!!! Now back to topic which being one of the expats who moved back home which is what the post is about I am in a very good position to make valid remarks. Yes you do not know who I am as well so please do not tell me to research before I post a Comment!!! It's about expats moving back to their own countries which I have done and you have not! As for your 30 different countries so what the post is about leaving Thailand and moving back home again which I with my family have done. Do you realise how stupid your remarks are. Keep on subject. Once and a while take off the rose coloured glasses. Oh I've been in quite a few countries but that was mostly with the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, Scot123 said: Wow! The whole post is about expats who left Thailand and returned home. Actually I was as much as you can be familiar with immigration rules considering in October the dust had not settled about embassies telling Thai immigration to wind their necks in about verifying income letters (unlike many on here I never once blamed the British embassy over this issue). Fact in October I went to the immigration office to check on the rules so please wind your neck in. I quoted their answer "only 800,000baht". It was my wife who told me to check As we were about to start building a large extension in a couple of days. It was you who said you did not have to do anything ie have 800,000/400,000baht in your account etc.... This was surprising to me as its the rules. Now yes they did bring out later that bank account history could be used but that was not the case for 3 months. Again fact!!! Now back to topic which being one of the expats who moved back home which is what the post is about I am in a very good position to make valid remarks. Yes you do not know who I am as well so please do not tell me to research before I post a Comment!!! It's about expats moving back to their own countries which I have done and you have not! As for your 30 different countries so what the post is about leaving Thailand and moving back home again which I with my family have done. Do you realise how stupid your remarks are. Keep on subject. Once and a while take off the rose coloured glasses. Oh I've been in quite a few countries but that was mostly with the military. You originally posted something that was not correct so I tried to explain that you were wrong. Do you realise how stupid your remarks are to me. I served in the RAF for 25 years from 1960 to 1984 before retiring to the UK from to 1988. I then worked for Vodafone for a year of 70 working hour weeks. Quit them for Motorola and worked 3 years in the UK before working with the international group for 7 years before I quit and went contracting off shore from 1999 to 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 8:03 PM, BobBKK said: No one misses the girls? wow! that's the main reason most come here but I guess most have taken there's back with them (good luck with that!). "Most" may be a statistical measure. But there are many expats, many of whom married Thai ladies that just ended up staying or still stay in Thailand. Not everybody is a bar boozer and Soi 6 or Walking Street lover. The daily foot massages alone and just being able to walk around and see things is a huge draw for me. Not looking for a wife, not looking to set any sex records either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Go and live in my old home town and see for yourself.i kid you not,but you will never want to see.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appWhere's your home town? I replied to a poster who said illegal immigrants get a house, they actually don't. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 4:56 PM, BobBKK said: You can't be serious! how funny. Thailand (and possibly Philippines) are the cheap sex centers of the world. Many come here (forgive the pun) because you can openly find a bar scene in every city, try that in most other countries. Even if your 'pure heart' doesn't like it THAT is the truth LOL. not denying that , my point was that most people dont come for that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 5:00 PM, BobBKK said: Hmmm not for me I love it! and my friends, even most of those who are married. Who wants Pizza everyday? variety is the spice of life so enjoy! Yes , you still enjoy indulging in prostitution , others either never did , dont anymore , or still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybgood Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'm currently lining up my UK ducks after yonks in LOS here's a coffee break scrible. friends with provenance common sense everywhere sunny/rainy/breezy weather is fresh negligible pollution windows open fewer insects service people/staff are keen local government have civility & know what they are doing bus pass/library /eye tests etc.etc free or discounted to pensioners choice of public transport everywhere with helpful employees no mass of mopeds everywhere in the city pedestrian areas parks leisure walks beach walks with absolutely minimal plastic washed up pavements clean controlled dogs live football timing agrees with my bodyclock long evenings + early mornings bookies everywhere lots of gamblers sweet fresh water from the tap real newspapers carpets and wooden floors reading sunday paper on the carpet no more infantile chat use my own accent my local area I always meet an old harigold conversation with people you don't know comes naturally most people take care of their reputation as they have friends and family to answer to no smoking means.... red light means.... parking ticket means......... not so many smiles ....but they're genuine our police really are wonderful no bribery required police do know the difference between good and bad people UK barmaids doing their job without tips shops and businesses are open AM people that can walk and chew gum at the same time coffee bars open early AM great diverse selection of beer great pints at normal prices (witherspoons 74baht for a real ale) natural blondes yoga pants too much much makeup fat asses bad teeth good banter/patter many people on disability lots of blokes with NHS walking sticks haircuts expensive but you still get asked about your holidays having to do my own manicure/pedicure things just appear to make sense. home is where you want it to be. I'm looking forward to my retirement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 hours ago, sanemax said: not denying that , my point was that most people dont come for that . You think most people do not come for the girls (or boys)? seriously? all those old farangs with their young 'new loves'? let alone the ones who 'scatter the seed'? you are entitled to your opinion, of course, but this bucket does not hold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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