Ling Kae Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 They are laying huge 2 meter diameter drainage pipes on beach road. I wonder if it will work or will it flop like everything they have tried? Photos attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 If anyone has witnessed the flash-flood flow from the higher 2nd road, down the Beach Road sois, across Beach Road, the sand and into the sea, where one cannot really tell where the flood water stops and where the sea begins, then you will know that this pipe, running broadly north-south at sea-level, won't do anything to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ling Kae Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 Then why bother? This looks like an expensive project, not to mention the traffic being slowed down to one lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, NanLaew said: If anyone has witnessed the flash-flood flow from the higher 2nd road, down the Beach Road sois, across Beach Road, the sand and into the sea, where one cannot really tell where the flood water stops and where the sea begins, then you will know that this pipe, running broadly north-south at sea-level, won't do anything to help. A pipe without an incline is as much use as a ditch closed at both ends. Not sure what they can do with this pipe, or what the plan is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ling Kae said: Then why bother? This looks like an expensive project, not to mention the traffic being slowed down to one lane. You answered your own question with your 'expensive project' comment. Nice little earner.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 if they wait long enough... - there will be plenty of gradient available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Sure that huge convoluted turd pipe will be doing a right turn for some world class bathers to enjoy at their leisure ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huayrat Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 The bigger the pipe the more rubbish they will throw down it until it gets blocked.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 The beach is great and this will be another improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraynz Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, tifino said: if they wait long enough... - there will be plenty of gradient available! where is this picture taken ????? very sad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 It has to work , otherwise many heads will roll as multi billion baht railway and trains will drown. good to see city hall finally doing something to better the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 How come posters start complaing even before the project is finished? We have to wait and see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 A libelous post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhammad Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Max69xl said: How come posters start complaing even before the project is finished? We have to wait and see if it works. The professional terms like a pipe having an ‘incline’ tells you what we’re dealing with ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I see the usual Pattaya haters and Thai bashers are out in force. What a bunch of mithering oil tankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsve Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Well, if they connect this stormwater discharge to the higher landscape and make sure that everyone has sufficiently large stormwater wells and pipes, it can work. But nothing indicates that they have thought so far. Other questions are how often they intend to clear those and how far out in the sea the rainwater is supposed to be released or how much it is purified before then. I am not particularly surprised if they have not thought of such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Ling Kae said: Then why bother? This looks like an expensive project, You've answered the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ling Kae Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Max69xl said: How come posters start complaing even before the project is finished? We have to wait and see if it works. Because we have seen it all before. It floods so city hall decides to do something. So far in the last 20 years nothing has worked. They had soi honey dug up and laying drains for nearly a year, nothing changed. Then they laid in massive drains at the end of soi 6, didn't work. Right now even after that build they still have 3 ugly machines they turn on to push the water out. This is right next to the Buddhist Shirne, what an eyesore. Then they decided to put in dips on the promenade which are at road level. This would be a safety hazard in any other country in the world but Thailand decides this is ok. Don't worry about people in wheelchairs, nobody cares. So ask yourself this, have they ever got anything correct? Then you will know why people are sceptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyai Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 where is this picture taken ????? very sad situation.Regarding the picture. You can't destroy the sand hills behind the beach. Once you do (by construction too close to the beach) you start the beginning of the end for the beach as locals have known it. Sand migrates 100's of Km up and down the coast, so a small beach/sand dune modification anywhere can effect another area many Km away ...over time. Trouble is polutitions and developers can't wait.Sent from my SM-J700F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Headline tomorrow : Thai planning department responsible for burying electrical wires accidentally orders 100cm wide pipe instead of 10cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Ling Kae said: Then why bother? This looks like an expensive project, not to mention the traffic being slowed down to one lane. There was a huge kickback involved. Hell, doesn't matter if it works or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Ling Kae said: Because we have seen it all before. It floods so city hall decides to do something. So far in the last 20 years nothing has worked. They had soi honey dug up and laying drains for nearly a year, nothing changed. Then they laid in massive drains at the end of soi 6, didn't work. Right now even after that build they still have 3 ugly machines they turn on to push the water out. This is right next to the Buddhist Shirne, what an eyesore. Then they decided to put in dips on the promenade which are at road level. This would be a safety hazard in any other country in the world but Thailand decides this is ok. Don't worry about people in wheelchairs, nobody cares. So ask yourself this, have they ever got anything correct? Then you will know why people are sceptical. I repeat,wait and see if it works before you start complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teigen Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 15 hours ago, murraynz said: where is this picture taken ????? very sad situation. Thanks a Google search by image: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 19 hours ago, MadMuhammad said: The professional terms like a pipe having an ‘incline’ tells you what we’re dealing with ???? Bit like a guy wounding around with his Water skis, looking for a hill in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 hours ago, Ling Kae said: So ask yourself this, have they ever got anything correct? They must have done something correct, if you chose to live here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ling Kae Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Grumpy said: They must have done something correct, if you chose to live here? Beer and girls is the only reason I'm here and yes they got that right.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 That pipe looks like it is made from ABS plastic and is being buried underneath a high traffic volume roadway. Do any engineers know if that pipe can handle the weight and not collapse under the weight of loaded buses, cement trucks, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 3:59 PM, NanLaew said: If anyone has witnessed the flash-flood flow from the higher 2nd road, down the Beach Road sois, across Beach Road, the sand and into the sea, where one cannot really tell where the flood water stops and where the sea begins, then you will know that this pipe, running broadly north-south at sea-level, won't do anything to help. I disagree. The already existing drains which are about the same size did the job back in the 90s. That they no longer do, is probably because they are full of garbage and sand, and one wonders if they were connected when the road was widened. The only practical solution, IMO, is to have really big drains collecting water at the base of every soi coming down from Second Road and going straight out to sea, but there isn't any money to be made from something that works, as it doesn't have to be replaced every few years, and that's not how Pattaya works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 21 hours ago, carlyai said: Regarding the picture. You can't destroy the sand hills behind the beach. Once you do (by construction too close to the beach) you start the beginning of the end for the beach as locals have known it. Sand migrates 100's of Km up and down the coast, so a small beach/sand dune modification anywhere can effect another area many Km away ...over time. Trouble is polutitions and developers can't wait. Sent from my SM-J700F using Tapatalk ??????? There are no "sand hills" behind the beach. There was a raised area that the promenade was laid on. BYW, all that "land" was reclaimed when they built a proper road along the beach decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ling Kae Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Banana7 said: That pipe looks like it is made from ABS plastic and is being buried underneath a high traffic volume roadway. Do any engineers know if that pipe can handle the weight and not collapse under the weight of loaded buses, cement trucks, etc.? So I went and checked this out today. They are placing these pipes in a reinforced concrete frame. Then they seem to be putting a concrete lid on the top once laid. Here are some pics. Note: the concrete frames are more than 2 meters hight and wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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