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My own nightmare mainly resolves around the red tape that is involved in doing business in Thailand.
 
Getting a work permit and the correct Non-Imm-B has been turned into a process that will reduce your expectancy of life by 1.5 years at least. It is costly (why?), extremely complicated, requires piles of paperwork and as a European, you have to employ 4 Thai people as a staff. In my particular job, I'm only working by myself, I don't even require staff to clean a floor or picking up the phone. I NEED NO STAFF. But have to employ 4 people for nothing. I also need an exclusive, official office with a billboard and no one else is allowed to share it with me. All this although in my particular job, I DON'T NEED AN OFFICE.
 
It's utterly ridiculous.
 
I have come to actually understand people who don't want to go through all this and work illegally... My only 'problem' is that I'm a guy who wants do do everything correctly, so this is no option for me - however, in Thailand, I'm getting seriously punished for my honesty - financially, emotionally and by eating up time and other resources I could use much better otherwise.

Why bother?


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This reminds me of the story from a poster not so long ago:

 

A Thai schoolgirl was selling snacks door to door to raise money for her school for whatever reason. Farang offers to buy all of her snacks at full price. The girl refuses - "because then I won't have anything to sell, will I?". 

 

Probably similar mind-boggling ways of thinking going on in Thai businesses, mixed in with a dash of Thais preferring to do business with Thais.

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My own nightmare mainly resolves around the red tape that is involved in doing business in Thailand.
 
Getting a work permit and the correct Non-Imm-B has been turned into a process that will reduce your expectancy of life by 1.5 years at least. It is costly (why?), extremely complicated, requires piles of paperwork and as a European, you have to employ 4 Thai people as a staff. In my particular job, I'm only working by myself, I don't even require staff to clean a floor or picking up the phone. I NEED NO STAFF. But have to employ 4 people for nothing. I also need an exclusive, official office with a billboard and no one else is allowed to share it with me. All this although in my particular job, I DON'T NEED AN OFFICE.
 
It's utterly ridiculous.
 
I have come to actually understand people who don't want to go through all this and work illegally... My only 'problem' is that I'm a guy who wants do do everything correctly, so this is no option for me - however, in Thailand, I'm getting seriously punished for my honesty - financially, emotionally and by eating up time and other resources I could use much better otherwise.
I heard costs 100000 baht a year in fees,accountants etc to maintain a work permit. Even before you pay any staff.

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I think the op possibly annoyed a few of the sellers... many Thais have the farang sterotyped as a bossy guy who thinks he knows everything... proceed with caution...

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Anyone with any business sense whatsoever should be able to take the hint after 5 minutes of looking into the rules and regs of foriegn owned SME business here.

 

There is always a sneaky way of going about things if you really want to ban something, but pesky

 "international political correctness"

 prohibits you from doing it implicitly.

 

And Thais are among the best in world at doing that kind of thing.

 

Its a stacked deck peoples.

 

But there will always be the guys willing to try it on, just like the guys who try to circumvent land ownership laws.

 

Usually always ends in tears!

 

 

 

 

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thai cookies old wifes tale applicable to many developing nations
selling internationally hard licence etc
dealing with chinese easy less red tape same people
order electrics in china half the componets are swapped out

emails are <deleted> you want something in the price range your talking about go to the door face to face
you want oil who produces oil malaysia and indinesia
simple

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On 9/18/2019 at 2:07 AM, andy72 said:

thai cookies old wifes tale applicable to many developing nations
selling internationally hard licence etc
dealing with chinese easy less red tape same people
order electrics in china half the componets are swapped out

emails are <deleted> you want something in the price range your talking about go to the door face to face
you want oil who produces oil malaysia and indinesia
simple

Since when Malaysia and Indonesia became soybean oil producers or exporters?

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On 9/12/2019 at 1:54 AM, ThePioneer said:

12 Million Baht per month revenue, and after 40 years being the biggest they haven't found a Thai supplier yet, but decide on that when the exchange rate AUS > THB probably is the worst in 40 years?

 

On 9/12/2019 at 2:05 AM, BestB said:

Suppliers always change , product quality changes , its a never ending game of chasing products at the right prices. 

 

And yes AUD is at its lowest to THB but all deals are in USD

Why would the deals being in USD negate the concern of ThePioneer who is in disbelief at why anyone in Oz would want to trade with Thailand when the exchange rate is at a record low!

 

Am I missing something here?

 

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56 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Actually Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam export more soybean oil than Thailand!  🙂

 

https://oec.world/en/profile/hs92/1507/#Exporters

 

 

19 minutes ago, BestB said:

Actually no, palm oil not soybean 

 

 

 

You mean OEC doesn't know what they are talking about, because you know better?

 

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4 hours ago, ThePioneer said:

Actually Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam export more soybean oil than Thailand!  🙂

 

https://oec.world/en/profile/hs92/1507/#Exporters

 

 

 

 

 

You mean OEC doesn't know what they are talking about, because you know better?

 

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You mean you do not know what you talking about?

https://commodity.com/malaysia/

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Thailand imports nearly 3 million metric tons (110 million bushels) of soybeans each year and another 2.5 million metric tons of soybean meal. Thailand is the largest producer of full fat soybean meal in Southeast Asia. https://ussoy.org/thailand-an-up-and-coming-power/

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4 hours ago, BestB said:

You mean you do not know what you talking about?

https://commodity.com/malaysia/

DB85F0B5-5D83-410B-9083-5725907E7364.png
 

Thailand imports nearly 3 million metric tons (110 million bushels) of soybeans each year and another 2.5 million metric tons of soybean meal. Thailand is the largest producer of full fat soybean meal in Southeast Asia. https://ussoy.org/thailand-an-up-and-coming-power/

 

 

So as usual you resort to trolling.

 

Because Malaysia's top export product is palm oil, that mean they are not exporting more soy bean oil than Thailand, as shown in the OEC charts?

 

Right?

 

We were talking about exporting soy bean oil, not importing , and certainly not about soy bean meals.

 

Keep up the trolling mate. Goodbye from me

 

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