UK's worst-case no-deal Brexit plan warns of food shortages, public disorder

[webfact]

UK's worst-case no-deal Brexit plan warns of food shortages, public disorder

By Paul Sandle

 

A cyclist rides past an electronic billboard displaying a British government Brexit information awareness campaign advertisement in London, Britain, September 11, 2019. REUTERS/Toby Melville.

 

LONDON (Reuters) - The British government's plans for a no-deal Brexit warn of severe disruption to cross-Channel routes, affecting the supply of medicines and certain types of fresh foods, and say that protests and counter-protests will take place across the country, accompanied by a possible rise in public disorder.

 

The "Operation Yellowhammer" worst-case assumptions published on Wednesday were prepared on Aug. 2, the government said, nine days after Boris Johnson became prime minister, and form the basis of its no-deal planning.

 

The document, which looks at the worst that could happen if Britain leaves the European Union on Oct. 31 without a deal, said public and business readiness for such an outcome would likely be low, in part because of continued political confusion in the run-up to Brexit day.

 

It said lorries could have to wait up to two and a half days to cross the English Channel and British citizens could be subject to increased immigration checks at EU border posts.

 

"Certain types of fresh food supply will decrease," it said. "There is a risk that panic buying will cause or exacerbate food supply disruption."

 

It said the flow of traffic across the English channel could be reduced by as much as 60% on the first day after a no-deal Brexit. The worst disruption could last for up to three months.

 

Traffic queues could affect fuel deliveries, disrupting supplies in London and south-east England, and panic buying could cause shortages in other parts of the country, it said.

 

Cross-border financial services would be affected as would information-sharing between police and security services, according to the document.

Documents from Operation Yellowhammer were first published in the Sunday Times newspaper on Aug. 18.

 

Michael Gove, the minister in charge of coordinating "no-deal" preparations, said then that the document was old and did not reflect current levels of preparedness.

 

He said on Wednesday that assumptions contained in the five-page published document were currently being reviewed, but they were the most recent complete iteration of the plans.

 

The opposition Labour Party said the document confirmed the severe risks of a no-deal Brexit.

 

"It is completely irresponsible for the government to have tried to ignore these stark warnings and prevent the public from seeing the evidence," said Labour's Brexit spokesman Keir Starmer.

 

"Boris Johnson must now admit that he has been dishonest with the British people about the consequence of a No Deal Brexit."

 

In releasing the document, Gove was acceding to a request from lawmakers. But he refused to make public the advice of government advisers about Johnson's decision to prorogue, or suspend, parliament from Monday until Oct. 14.

 

Scotland's highest court of appeal ruled that decision was unlawful on Wednesday, prompting calls for lawmakers to return to work.

 

Gove said the publication of advice given to ministers would be an "inappropriate and disproportionate" use of parliamentary procedure, and the individuals would have no right to reply.

 

(Reporting by Paul Sandle; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-12

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[Samui Bodoh]

30 minutes ago, webfact said:

The British government's plans for a no-deal Brexit warn of severe disruption to cross-Channel routes, affecting the supply of medicines and certain types of fresh foods, and say that protests and counter-protests will take place across the country, accompanied by a possible rise in public disorder.

But but but...

 

The Brexiteers say that everything will be rainbows and unicorns!

 

What a Cluster-<deleted>!

 

I have said it before and will say it again...

 

Never before have I seen a country so utterly determined to shoot itself in the crotch.

 

 

[kingdong]

9 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

But but but...

 

The Brexiteers say that everything will be rainbows and unicorns!

 

What a Cluster-<deleted>!

 

I have said it before and will say it again...

 

Never before have I seen a country so utterly determined to shoot itself in the crotch.

 

 

Don,t worry about it,all we,'re doing is hoping for the best,but preparing for the worst,once we,'re out i,'ll give the European union 5 years max.adios amigo.

 

 

 

 

years max,adios amigo.

[z42]

5 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

But but but...

 

The Brexiteers say that everything will be rainbows and unicorns!

 

What a Cluster-<deleted>!

 

I have said it before and will say it again...

 

Never before have I seen a country so utterly determined to shoot itself in the crotch.

 

 

Have to disagree. The people voted in a referendum that was free and fair. Lies were told by all sides in the run up to it.

The ballot paper didn't mention anything about trade deals etc. 

 

What if another referendum happened and leave won again, well then what?

 

You can't blame the voting public because of the mess that politicians and bureaucrats from Europe have created with an unwillingness to negotiate reasonably.

[kingdong]

4 minutes ago, z42 said:

Have to disagree. The people voted in a referendum that was free and fair. Lies were told by all sides in the run up to it.

The ballot paper didn't mention anything about trade deals etc. 

 

What if another referendum happened and leave won again, well then what?

 

You can't blame the voting public because of the mess that politicians and bureaucrats from Europe have created with an unwillingness to negotiate reasonably.

They need us more thanks need them,let's get out and let the uncontrolled econo.if migration become the eu,a problem,good luck .

[wilcopops]

So even the government believes in "Project Fear"?

What will it take to convince rank and file Brexiteers.

[wilcopops]

11 minutes ago, z42 said:

The people voted in a referendum that was free and fair.

Not true.

Furthermore it was advisory and irregularities already exposed would have a binding referendum invalidated.

[baboon]

2 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

So even the government believes in "Project Fear"?

What will it take to convince rank and file Brexiteers.

Nothing. Not even God coming down from Heaven.

[wilcopops]

5 minutes ago, baboon said:

Nothing. Not even God coming down from Heaven.

"God"? ...... "Heaven"?      There might be a clue there!

[wilcopops]

14 minutes ago, kingdong said:

They need us more thanks need them,let's get out and let the uncontrolled econo.if migration become the eu,a problem,good luck .

QED

[Alphonsothethird]

11 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

So even the government believes in "Project Fear"?

What will it take to convince rank and file Brexiteers.

Possibly free lobotomy's for all Brexiteer voters on the NHS once Boris has sold it of to US health insurance companies ????

[ThaiBunny]

3 minutes ago, Alphonsothethird said:

Possibly free lobotomy's for all Brexiteer voters on the NHS once Boris has sold it of to US health insurance companies ????

I see you've jumped the queue

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Michael Gove, the minister in charge of coordinating "no-deal" preparations, said then that the document was old and did not reflect current levels of preparedness.

 

He said on Wednesday that assumptions contained in the five-page published document were currently being reviewed, but they were the most recent complete iteration of the plans.

It is only 5 weeks old, what has changed?

 

Yellowhammer the document in full apart from redacted section 15 

20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

[OneMoreFarang]

3 years ago people were promised things will be great after Brexit - and 52% voted for Brexit.

Then it became more and more clear:

- there is no easy breakup, it's mayor headache

- there is no easy trade deal (with the EU or anybody else)

- there will be massive short time disruptions

- there will be lots of long time problems, things get more expensive, companies move out, fewer jobs, etc.

One would think that the people who believed 3 years ago that things will get better should by now know that that is not the case. There is no upside of Brexit. Or if there is one nobody discovered it yet.

And still so many people support Brexit. Might it be related to their limited IQ?

[Alphonsothethird]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

3 years ago people were promised things will be great after Brexit - and 52% voted for Brexit.

Then it became more and more clear:

- there is no easy breakup, it's mayor headache

- there is no easy trade deal (with the EU or anybody else)

- there will be massive short time disruptions

- there will be lots of long time problems, things get more expensive, companies move out, fewer jobs, etc.

One would think that the people who believed 3 years ago that things will get better should by now know that that is not the case. There is no upside of Brexit. Or if there is one nobody discovered it yet.

And still so many people support Brexit. Might it be related to their limited IQ?

It was suggested after the referendum that perhaps IQ levels of those supporting Brexit were lower on average.  Of course that was poo pood as cynical and not having any supportive evidence. Irrespective of that there can now be no doubt given what has come to light since regarding predicted outcomes of Brexit that perhaps it was more that people wanting Brexit were just simply gullible and more easily convinced by politician's lies.

[kingdong]

37 minutes ago, baboon said:

Nothing. Not even God coming down from Heaven.

And c dry

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

And still so many people support Brexit. Might it be related to their limited IQ?

Perhaps it was because they thought the politicians of the day could be trusted to uphold democracy.

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Perhaps it was because they thought the politicians of the day could be trusted to uphold democracy.

He is referring to the now, not to the past as you are.

Thereby you're proving his point.

[Estrada]

1 hour ago, z42 said:

Have to disagree. The people voted in a referendum that was free and fair. Lies were told by all sides in the run up to it.

The ballot paper didn't mention anything about trade deals etc. 

 

What if another referendum happened and leave won again, well then what?

 

You can't blame the voting public because of the mess that politicians and bureaucrats from Europe have created with an unwillingness to negotiate reasonably.

63% did not vote to leave.

[kingdong]

51 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

So even the government believes in "Project Fear"?

What will it take to convince rank and file Brexiteers.

Climbing on the back of a giant albatrsoss and flying thru a crack in the clouds where happieness reigns everafter.

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

He is referring to the now, not to the past as you are.

Thereby you're proving his point.

??? i,'ll have a pint of what you,be been drinking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kingdong]

7 minutes ago, Estrada said:

63% did not vote to leave.

The peasants  need to be reminded of their place

[metisdead]

An off topic post has been removed. 

[Laughing Gravy]

25 minutes ago, Estrada said:

63% did not vote to leave.

And if you didn't turn up to the party you can demand a piece of cake. Your stats are wrong anyway. Under 18s can't vote. It was the biggest turnout ever, promoted once in a generation referendum.

 

This translates for many remainers as lets have another vote because we don't like the result, even if the first referendum hasn't been acted upon.

 

Its called democracy, its your choice to vote.

[JonnyF]

Project Fear, Chapter 53. Written by a load of Remain civil servants who are scared of the work involved in a little change.

 

[stevenl]

22 minutes ago, kingdong said:

??? i,'ll have a pint of what you,be been drinking.

It's going to be a dry day for you then.

[Laughing Gravy]

43 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

3 years ago people were promised things will be great after Brexit - and 52% voted for Brexit.

Then it became more and more clear:

- there is no easy breakup, it's mayor headache

- there is no easy trade deal (with the EU or anybody else)

- there will be massive short time disruptions

- there will be lots of long time problems, things get more expensive, companies move out, fewer jobs, etc.

One would think that the people who believed 3 years ago that things will get better should by now know that that is not the case. There is no upside of Brexit. Or if there is one nobody discovered it yet.

And still so many people support Brexit. Might it be related to their limited IQ?

How cheap and predictable trying to link iQ with having a democratic vote and opinion in life. May it be that they have more confidence, believe and are fed up with being a cash cow for the EU with freeloaders taking advantage.

 

Or that they are fed up with the federalisation of Europe. Also they have greater vision. To say there is no upside to leaving the EU (Brexit) shows hows limited your IQ is. How do the USA. China, India Australia, Japan, and all the others cope with not being in the EU.

 

Please don't say you have university degree so that makes me more intelligent. It has been done to death and proven to be like your argument here, worthless.

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It's going to be a dry day for you 

Good,would also like to state i,m not into drug abuse either

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, z42 said:

Have to disagree. The people voted in a referendum that was free and fair. Lies were told by all sides in the run up to it.

The ballot paper didn't mention anything about trade deals etc. 

 

What if another referendum happened and leave won again, well then what?

 

You can't blame the voting public because of the mess that politicians and bureaucrats from Europe have created with an unwillingness to negotiate reasonably.

The leave campaign mentioned plenty about trade deals, "Easiest trade deals ever". Lies were told by both sides?

 

Remain: "A possibility of a no deal Brexit, leaving the economy in dire straights." What is Boris pushing for? What does the governments own Yellowhammer document say about a no deal Brexit?

 

"Negotiations with the EU won't be easy, they hold all the cards and want to set an example of us" Only deal on the table? May's deal, which Brexiteers refer to as BRINO. Chances of an improved deal? Zero.

 

All of this was labeled as "Project Fear" by the leave campaign, now quite obviously "Project Reality".

 

The lies were primaryly disseminated by the leave campaigns, with Dominic Cummings' mantra, "If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it." Sure worked on the gullible, living proof provided by several posters on this forum.

 

[kingdong]

7 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

How cheap and predictable trying to link iQ with having a democratic vote and opinion in life. May it be that they have more confidence, believe and are fed up with being a cash cow for the EU with freeloaders taking advantage.

 

Or that they are fed up with the federalisation of Europe. Also they have greater vision. To say there is no upside to leaving the EU (Brexit) shows hows limited your IQ is. How do the USA. China, India Australia, Japan, and all the others cope with not being in the EU.

 

Please don't say you have university degree so that makes me more intelligent. It has been done to death and proven to be like your argument here, worthless.

A very good intelligent post,wish I had your patience in trying to reason with a remainer well good luck and i,'ll carry on trying to teach my chimpanzee to play the piano.

[stevenl]

13 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

How cheap and predictable trying to link iQ with having a democratic vote and opinion in life. May it be that they have more confidence, believe and are fed up with being a cash cow for the EU with freeloaders taking advantage.

 

Or that they are fed up with the federalisation of Europe. Also they have greater vision. To say there is no upside to leaving the EU (Brexit) shows hows limited your IQ is. How do the USA. China, India Australia, Japan, and all the others cope with not being in the EU.

 

Please don't say you have university degree so that makes me more intelligent. It has been done to death and proven to be like your argument here, worthless.

Worthless, no, it has been proven correct.