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1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

Big Deal , its so far away we could never get there ,they could never get here ,so what does all this waste of our taxes achieve for you and me?

It provides employment Bert but not as most of us know  it.

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yeah, but there are still only two large rock planets in the at all ever knowable universe.  everything else is dead or so many light years from here they might as well be giant "Chinese" teapots floating in the vacuum of space.  including THIS one.  

 

okay okay, yeah there are a few moons out past the asteroid belt. but those are not "planets" even to the folks who need to call any large round thing a "planet" so that Earth seems blessed as [only] one planet "out of billions and billions of stars and planets".  and thus made for man and his dominion.  

 

not a large rock planet. ????

 

there are still only 2 large terrestrial planets with GHG atmospheres.  2 not billions.  in our "really real" universe.

 

and both are exactly the same distance from "The Sun" [comparatively, in the universe.  actually, even as to infrared radiation as well].  yet our one and only sister planet is 500 degrees C.... in the coldness of space that's kind of weird.  

 

but we are blessed.

 

hey! far out man!

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 Existence of Life is one thing, but intelligent beings is another! If the latter, who will represent authority,in the universe  !

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

K2-18b orbits a dwarf star in the constellation Leo that lies 100 light years from Earth

That means light need 100 years to travel to there. Anything else is slower than light.

 

So what would it mean if this planet would be perfect, just like earth, maybe with no pollution at all and maybe with millions of beautiful young women waiting for the men from earth? It would still be impossible for any of us to go there. We would never every arrive before we die.

So it's all very interesting theoretically but useless for the real world.

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Space colonization is the next elite mega-fraud.

With the climate change hoax faltering ,they need a new project to milk the sheeple

Needless to say ,we will never set foot on the planet in question

We will have to settle for state-of-the-art CGI of glorious 'cities' on exoplanet 785CV 

 

 

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I will start by saying that the very thought of humans on earth being the most intelligent being in the universe is a very depressing idea for my mind to grasp!

 

I am a student of science. I love science, and astronomy, physics, and the related areas, like quantum physics, and mechanics, cosmology, and the study of our truly amazing universe. For me, as a rational man, to even conceive of us being the only form of intelligent life in a universe that is so vast, that one of the galaxies, such as our Milky Way, contains nearly 100 billion solar systems, and the universe as a whole, is thought to have over 100 billion galaxies, the mere thought of us being the only human, or the only species with our level of intelligence, or way, way beyond our level, is positively preposterous, arrogant, inane, and bizarre. I consider it to be an impossibility, quite frankly.

 

I am fairly certain there are millions of intelligent civilizations, throughout the universes and I would bet we are one of the lowest, in terms of technology, advancement, consciousness, and evolution. With such vast distances, there would be no way, with our relatively primitive current levels of technology, for us to know about them. Does that mean that they do not exist? Of course not. Even as a man who loves science, I can use my reason, to deduce that just because I do not have proof positive, that in no way means something does not exist. 

 

Prior to Newton, the majority of the world did not believe in gravity. Did that prevent an apple falling from a tree, from hitting those people ignorant of gravity on their heads? 

 

Personally, I see the need for exploration of exoplanets, and the desire to establish a factual basis for life in other realms. But, I consider it fairly unnecessary, and the embodiment of hubris, to consider that we are the "only ones". Such a sad thought that would be. Really? We are the best this vast universe has to offer? 

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9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I am fairly certain there are millions of intelligent civilizations

I dont think so, other  life maybe , advanced, more doubtful but not  impossible, then there's the "time"  and distance  issue, they may have been and gone and left no trace at all.

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2 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

Big Deal , its so far away we could never get there ,they could never get here ,so what does all this waste of our taxes achieve for you and me?

At a point in time, people knew of Thailand but getting there was not viable due to travel times and distance. Now you have the opportunity to live here and return home for holidays. Everything is relative to it's current point in time, without progress we would all still be living in the trees.

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1 minute ago, Chazar said:

I dont think so, other  life maybe , advanced, more doubtful but not  impossible, then there's the "time"  and distance  issue, they may have been and gone and left no trace at all.

From my point of view, only hubris, arrogance, denial, and lack of scientific understanding of the utter vastness of this universe, are the things that can and will lead to such a conclusion. 

 

What have some of our most brilliant minds said about this possibility?

 

Hawkings: The well-known scientist also became more speculative about the existence of aliens in the universe, too. He thought it's probable that other life forms exist and compared a possible alien visit to Earth to Columbus trip to the Americas. Extraterrestrials likely have more advanced technology and the potential need to conquer the planet for power or resources, which would lead humans to potentially be wiped out from war or disease. Therefore we should not try to communicate with aliens.

 

https://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/famous-scientists/physicists/stephen-hawking4.htm

 

In short? We're too self-obsessed to even imagine extraterrestrial life, let alone find and communicate with it, and if there's not going to be proof within our lifetimes, we're not much interested in looking. Is there intelligent life out there? Probably, but we'll probably never find it.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2019/03/18/are-we-in-a-galactic-zoo-protected-by-aliens-scientists-meet-to-investigate-the-great-silence/#32fff4181ce7

 

Kepler’s answer was unequivocal. There are more planets than there are stars, and at least a quarter are Earth-size planets in their star’s so-called habitable zone, where conditions are neither too hot nor too cold for life. With a minimum of 100 billion stars in the Milky Way, that means there are at least 25 billion places where life could conceivably take hold in our galaxy alone—and our galaxy is one among trillions.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

From my point of view, only hubris, arrogance, denial, and lack of scientific understanding of the utter vastness of this universe, are the things that can and will lead to such a conclusion. 

You're assuming the universe is real, and we aren't just living in a simulation.

Which explains away a lot of the big questions, like why doesn't Newtons laws apply to the Universe and why haven't we had signals from the Universe?

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30 minutes ago, vinniekintana said:

Space colonization is the next elite mega-fraud.

I'd be quite happy currently with all the UK remoaners attempting Space Colonisation  - with or without a EU contingent. I;d even help them build the ship

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4 hours ago, Chazar said:

we  could also never  fly  500 years ago

Scientists do believe, however, that we can time-travel to the future. They believe we can devise a way to travel *almost* at the speed of light. I don't recall the technical explanations, but it was interesting, and put forth by astrophysicists, not amateurs. They could conceivably travel to the nearest star system in about four years.  Alpha Centauri A and Alpha Centauri B, which form a binary pair. They are an average of 4.3 light-years from Earth. The third star is Proxima Centauri. It is about 4.22 light-years from Earth and is the closest star other than the sun. When they returned to earth, as you know, time is relative and eight or nine years of near-light speed travel would equal many decades of earth time, just as Einstein proved and has even been proved by using atomic clocks on aircraft. (Two synchronized clocks, one on the plane and one on land; when the flight's over, the plane's clock is a few milliseconds behind earth's clock.)

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