Popular Post davidst01 Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 I dont live in a tourist area. We rent a building and have a small business. I have a yellow book. I asked the immig officer if we have to do any TM forms when coming back to thailand. He said no. Also, I asked him if I can do minor repair work outside our building. I said I dont have a WP. He said its ok bc Im not earning a salary. Not all immigration officers are bad. He is really friendly at our office cheers 6 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinchaffers Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 What office?Sent from my SM-G935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asiaexpat Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 LOL and good luck 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Myran Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 Ok, what is anyone supposed to do with this information? Completely pointless. 4 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) ... well, congrats, could be some shortliving info you got there though, talking out of experience, smooth sailing at my local franchise not half a year ago - but now: 'new team' ... same-same bs, but different ... Edited September 12, 2019 by jollyhangmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 My local Immigration Office told me the exact opposite in that my Thai wife has to submit a TM30 every time I return from a trip out of Thailand. They also said that she does not have to submit a TM30 when I return from any overnight or longer trips within Thailand. If there is one thing consistent within Thai Immigration it's the inconsistency. 10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 As far as I know, there is no immigration office that requires a TM28 when returning to the same address after an overseas trip. This is subject to change. It is good news for you that your office does not require a TM30 when returning to the same address after an overseas trip. However, recognise that this is subject to change. Your experience with respect to TM30 at your office has absolutely no relevance to other offices. Further, without knowing which office you use, the information is worthless even for those using the same office. I suspect the immigration official is correct about you being able to carry out small repairs without a work permit. However, his advice is just an unqualified opinion by someone who does not work in your local Labor Department office (or, indeed, any Labor Department office). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted September 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2019 It's all okay until it isn't. It's not needed until it is. The information is correct until it's not. 16 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Myran said: Ok, what is anyone supposed to do with this information? Completely pointless. Could be misinformation by one IO. I would not rely on it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, davidst01 said: I asked the immig officer what office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I too had the same experience in Jomtien last year. I have expressed the opinion it is not the office that determines the variability of responses but the visa one is holding and your relationship to your address. I think if you have used and agent and thus have been aided by a senior IO, then you get less hassle. Also, when I moved into my condo, I did all the paperwork correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Off-topic, troll post reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, BritTim said: As far as I know, there is no immigration office that requires a TM28 when returning to the same address after an overseas trip. This is subject to change. PHUKET Quote “No, we don’t hold foreigners responsible for filing the TM30. Foreigners just need to make sure that they fill in a TM28. The TM30 is the landlord’s job,” Phuket Immigration Deputy Chief Col Nareuwat Putthawiro said plainly on Wednesday (Aug 28). The TM30 is the form for landlords to report to Immigration within 24 hours of the arrival of any foreign tenants, as required under Section 38 of the Thailand Immigration Act of 1979. The TM28 form is for foreigners to report themselves to Immigration after staying away from their registered address for more than 24 hours, as required under Section 37 (c) of the same act. Asked whether foreigners must submit a completed TM28 every time they return to their registered address, Col Nareuwat said, “Yes, they must do.” https://www.thephuketnews.com/right-on-time- phuket-immigration-explain-tm30-and-tm28-requirements-for-reporting-foreigners-72693.php?fbclid=IwAR0IcLrbcBi8e19omWcvyRM6mikw24JKvjS9IBHiQq5es7fATy0Tb_Ng09I#hHX6JHgYUr2S8hds.97 Edited September 12, 2019 by phuketrichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Removed a troll post (incomprehensible gibberish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, phuketrichard said: PHUKET https://www.thephuketnews.com/right-on-time- phuket-immigration-explain-tm30-and-tm28-requirements-for-reporting-foreigners-72693.php?fbclid=IwAR0IcLrbcBi8e19omWcvyRM6mikw24JKvjS9IBHiQq5es7fATy0Tb_Ng09I#hHX6JHgYUr2S8hds.97 so.... when you own your dwelling, is it TM28 + TM30 ? (and if yes, I would feel insecure because I would keep wondering what I am missing out on the TM29 ??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Myran said: Ok, what is anyone supposed to do with this information? Completely pointless. Sadly it is. All it demonstrates is the variation around the country. First option is to comply with the rules as written, second option, when one figures it out, is to comply as is implemented where you have to deal with them. If one is really capable, avoid them altogether. Edited September 12, 2019 by jacko45k 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, tgw said: so.... when you own your dwelling, is it TM28 + TM30 ? (and if yes, I would feel insecure because I would keep wondering what I am missing out on the TM29 ??) If you "own" you are ur own landlord, so i'd say yes, BUT, really, who the F#@K knows "The TM30 is the landlord’s job,” Edited September 13, 2019 by phuketrichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) I use Suphanburi office. I tried to do the TM28 (address change) when moving from BKK but they did not want one. However, I needed to do a TM30 and my wife do it online since then. Edited September 13, 2019 by Tayaout 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy Old Man Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 With my extensive experience with Chiangmai Immigration at the old and new locations I’ve come to the conclusion that every Thai Immigration officer has there own interpretation of the written laws, rules and guidelines . . . . . After an overnight stay in Chiangrai province and returning on a Saturday afternoon I did my due diligence and reported to the Immigration Office “Yes it’s open at the weekend” . . . . Their response was “Only one night in Chiangrai Province” Goodbye ! . . . . . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 4:36 PM, edwinchester said: My local Immigration Office told me the exact opposite in that my Thai wife has to submit a TM30 every time I return from a trip out of Thailand. They also said that she does not have to submit a TM30 when I return from any overnight or longer trips within Thailand. If there is one thing consistent within Thai Immigration it's the inconsistency. "They also said that she does not have to submit a TM30 when I return from any overnight or longer trips within Thailand." This part is the same at several Immigration offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I hope you got it in writing and signed by every IO at the location and heaps of stamps.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 This must be the first post ever about an IO saying there's no need for submitting the TM30 when coming back from abroad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Max69xl said: This must be the first post ever about an IO saying there's no need for submitting the TM30 when coming back from abroad. This was said many times in the past, but in recent times most immigration offices require a TM30 after re-entering Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Please just don't help your wife to sell BBQ chicken and you'll be alright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, jackdd said: This was said many times in the past, but in recent times most immigration offices require a TM30 after re-entering Thailand. Don't you basically re-submit the news that you're back in Thailand when going thru the customs with all the fingerprint and other procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said: Don't you basically re-submit the news that you're back in Thailand when going thru the customs with all the fingerprint and other procedures? Yes, but only from you. The landlord / possessor of the place where you stay has to notify immigration as well. (In case that you are your own landlord this is obviously redundant, but immigration doesn't know this beforehand. Only a low percentage of foreigners is in this situation anyway) Edited September 14, 2019 by jackdd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Well we all know that requirements differ from IO to IO and this information is only relevant to the IO local to the OP .Which is..........[emoji848] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) On 9/12/2019 at 3:53 PM, asiaexpat said: LOL and good luck At immi officers discretion...555 Edited September 14, 2019 by elliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, Max69xl said: This must be the first post ever about an IO saying there's no need for submitting the TM30 when coming back from abroad. I have said it several times on this forum. Senior IO at Jomtien told me for long term residents (retirement and marriage extensions) need to complete a tm28/tm30 on permanent change of residence then no need for tm30 in any circumstances. Went abroad in May, 90 day report in August, tm30 not mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) On 9/13/2019 at 5:14 AM, jacko45k said: Sadly it is. All it demonstrates is the variation around the country. First option is to comply with the rules as written, second option, when one figures it out, is to comply as is implemented where you have to deal with them. If one is really capable, avoid them altogether. Agents , we are indeed blessed , money well spent , and everybody is happy. TiT.. Edited September 14, 2019 by elliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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