snoop1130 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 PM Johnson denies lying to Queen Elizabeth over the suspension of parliament Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks with year four and year six pupils during a visit to Pimlico Primary school in London, Britain, September 10, 2019. REUTERS/Toby Melville/Pool LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has denied lying to Queen Elizabeth over the reasons for suspending parliament for five weeks after a court ruled his decision to do so was unlawful. Parliament was prorogued - suspended - on Monday until Oct. 14, a move opposition lawmakers argued was designed to thwart their attempts to scrutinise his plans for leaving the European Union and to allow him to push through a no-deal Brexit on Oct. 31. Scotland’s highest court of appeal ruled on Wednesday that the suspension was not lawful and was intended to stymie lawmakers, prompting Johnson’s opponents to accuse him of lying to the queen as to the reasons for the suspension. Johnson said on Thursday those claims were “absolutely not” true. With seven weeks to go, the government and parliament are locked in conflict over the future of Brexit, with possible outcomes ranging from leaving without a deal to another referendum. Johnson said the government is waiting to hear an appeal next week against the Scottish court ruling by the Supreme Court, the United Kingdom’s highest judicial body, and he respected the independence of the judges. “I’m not going to quarrel or criticise the judges,” he told reporters. “It’s very important that we respect the independence of the judiciary. They are learned people.” He said he was hopeful the government would reach a divorce deal with the EU next month. “I’ve been around the European capitals talking to our friends - I think we can see the rough area of a landing space, of how you could do it,” he said. “It will be hard, but I think we can get there.” -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-12 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 They are not 'claims' Boris. They are the judgement of a UK court of law. The clink is full of old lags saying "I never done it boss, I was stitched up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 As far as I know all he had to do was ask Her Majesty to Prorogue Parliament, she probably asked him why, I doubt he told an out and right lie, but probably mislead her or evaded the answer as he and the others have practised well when being interviewed by John Humphrys on Radio 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 555 six weeks to go. Here come the long knives and sh1++y propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Two points here, firstly in law there is a difference between ''unlawful'' and ''illegal''. Secondly the Queen does not act in isolation but in consultation with the Privy Council. The Privy Council is composed of members of Parliament, barristers, industrialists, etc., a bit difficult to get a lie past that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, anterian said: Two points here, firstly in law there is a difference between ''unlawful'' and ''illegal''. Secondly the Queen does not act in isolation but in consultation with the Privy Council. The Privy Council is composed of members of Parliament, barristers, industrialists, etc., a bit difficult to get a lie past that lot. The privy council meeting which was organised to propose proroguing parliament consisted of only 3 members plus the Queen - Mogg along with Baroness Evans, the leader of the Lords, and Mark Spencer, the Tory party Chief Whip, all 3 hardcore brexiteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Unless Boris has the Epstein tapes I would say he's sunk in every conceivable direction???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Number 6 said: 555 six weeks to go. Here come the long knives and sh1++y propaganda. No food , no medical supplies , power outages, from our french supplier . Apart from that , look on the bright side , without lights.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 An off topic troll post along with multiple replies and further replies to those have been removed. Stick to the topic under discussion. Thoughts on Brexit itself and if it is good or bad, comparisons to hurricanes paths in America are absolutely not relevant. Comments regarding others perceptions on Brexit and their intelligence are not relevant. Multiple posting holidays on offer for anyone who can't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, RuamRudy said: 1 hour ago, anterian said: Two points here, firstly in law there is a difference between ''unlawful'' and ''illegal''. Secondly the Queen does not act in isolation but in consultation with the Privy Council. The Privy Council is composed of members of Parliament, barristers, industrialists, etc., a bit difficult to get a lie past that lot. The privy council meeting which was organised to propose proroguing parliament consisted of only 3 members plus the Queen - Mogg along with Baroness Evans, the leader of the Lords, and Mark Spencer, the Tory party Chief Whip, all 3 hardcore brexiteers. I don't have the numbers at hand, but how many million people he got his lies past when campaigning for the referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I’m sure the Queen knew exactly why he asked and exactly why she signed. Opinion of a bunch of jock judges in not important. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, Loiner said: I’m sure the Queen knew exactly why he asked and exactly why she signed. Opinion of a bunch of jock judges in not important. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 hours ago, snoop1130 said: I’ve been around the European capitals talking to our friends - I think we can see the rough area of a landing space, of how you could do it,” he said. “It will be hard, but I think we can get there.” What utter bullocks this man comes out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Par fir the course with BJ, why would he make an exception for the queen? His vascillations are well established Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 So now he is lying about lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Jip99 said: Excellent point. Shome mishtake, shurly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'm starting to get this uplifting feeling that brexit isn't going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: I'm starting to get this uplifting feeling that brexit isn't going to happen I'm starting to get this uplifting feeling that Guy Fawkes has been reincarnated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 hours ago, elliss said: No food , no medical supplies , power outages, from our french supplier . Apart from that , look on the bright side , without lights.. OK - so you’ll be packing today then and selling the house? - and dont let the door hit you on the way out. and by the way @no food@ just laughable left wing remoaner garbage scaremongering - we had food before we joined the EU!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Isn't parliament always proroged before the Queen's speech? What's next, make all PMs take a lie detector test every time they make a decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 hours ago, wilcopops said: Par fir the course with BJ, why would he make an exception for the queen? His vascillations are well established but now the majority of voters voted for it - something that democrats seem to very very undemocratic in their left wing thinking about accepting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizboi Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: I'm starting to get this uplifting feeling that brexit isn't going to happen Oh great so its uplifting to ignore democracy? good point - maybe we can ignore the result if Corbyn wins the next election!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, bizboi said: Oh great so its uplifting to ignore democracy? good point - maybe we can ignore the result if Corbyn wins the next election!! Tch tch, we won't ignore it, just come to the conclusion that it is advisory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Boris and Donald are two plods in a pee. Both lie so often we simply expect whatever they say to be lies. Okay, I'm a simple Yank: what is so clock stopping vital about 'the Queen's speech"? That it takes a month to cook up? Lincoln wrote Gettysburg address on back on envelope while on the train to Gettysburg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has denied lying to Queen Elizabeth BJ has been lying (and is still lying) to everybody and their uncle about Brexit, so why not to the Queen as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie35 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Basil B said: As far as I know all he had to do was ask Her Majesty to Prorogue Parliament, she probably asked him why, I doubt he told an out and right lie, but probably mislead her or evaded the answer as he and the others have practised well when being interviewed by John Humphrys on Radio 4. Pure supposition. When did he not lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, Emdog said: Boris and Donald are two plods in a pee. Both lie so often we simply expect whatever they say to be lies. Okay, I'm a simple Yank: what is so clock stopping vital about 'the Queen's speech"? That it takes a month to cook up? Lincoln wrote Gettysburg address on back on envelope while on the train to Gettysburg... "Okay, I'm a simple Yank..." So is Boris, born in New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, jesimps said: Isn't parliament always proroged before the Queen's speech? What's next, make all PMs take a lie detector test every time they make a decision? Is there a truth detector available may save a lot of time???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, flossie35 said: Pure supposition. When did he not lie? Or more to the point when did he lie? such meetings with the queen are private and normally neither makes public the detail of any of the conversation, so to say Boris lied is "pure supposition". What I was suggesting was he probably more economical with the truth than say any out & out lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said: Is there a truth detector available may save a lot of time???? Old smoky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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