Britain may need a second Brexit referendum, says former PM Cameron

[kingdong]

17 hours ago, tebee said:

brexit lawyer on Channel 4 news just said the 2017 election was a long time ago so parliaments mandate is no longer valid and doesn't see any irony in this!

So was that stupid law about sending kids up chimneys to clean them,it should be repealed.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Amalie said:

Cameron is a traitor to his own country and the COUNTRY IS THE BRITISH PEOPLE.

It used to be,( past tense ) now it would appear the lunatics have taken over the asylum,thanks to the remain camp British politics are now irreversibly changed for the worse,they,'ll be no outright winner just coalitions.

[Loiner]

It used to be,( past tense ) now it would appear the lunatics have taken over the asylum,thanks to the remain camp British politics are now irreversibly changed for the worse,they,'ll be no outright winner just coalitions.

We should embrace the political change that is coming. Over the past twenty years or so, both of the two main parties have irreparably damaged the UK. Although some would say they are diverse, many of their policies have been very similar and it’s difficult to tell which side some of the politicians have been working for. The recent rash of defectors and rebels is typical of this.
Who knows if there will be a series of coalitions or outright winners. I think the chances are that the rise of newer parties like The Brexit Party will see them holding sway in the house. A Brexit Party or UKIP in government would be even better.
Either way, many of the old guard of self serving politicians will be voted out of a job at the next opportunity. All good change.

[SheungWan]

Cameron is a traitor to his own country and the COUNTRY IS THE BRITISH PEOPLE.

At least not green ink.

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[SheungWan]

We should embrace the political change that is coming. Over the past twenty years or so, both of the two main parties have irreparably damaged the UK. Although some would say they are diverse, many of their policies have been very similar and it’s difficult to tell which side some of the politicians have been working for. The recent rash of defectors and rebels is typical of this.
Who knows if there will be a series of coalitions or outright winners. I think the chances are that the rise of newer parties like The Brexit Party will see them holding sway in the house. A Brexit Party or UKIP in government would be even better.
Either way, many of the old guard of self serving politicians will be voted out of a job at the next opportunity. All good change.

Hilarious Hard Brexiteers talking about change when what they really want is a fictitious trip backwards to a mythical past.

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[SheungWan]

It used to be,( past tense ) now it would appear the lunatics have taken over the asylum,thanks to the remain camp British politics are now irreversibly changed for the worse,they,'ll be no outright winner just coalitions.

Hard Brexiteers wanting to persuade us that they aren't the lunatics driving off the cliff

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[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers wanting to persuade us that they aren't the lunatics driving off the cliff

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All a matter of opinion. Leavers also see a cliff, with the abyss of the EU waiting if we fall off it. 

[Loiner]

Hilarious Hard Brexiteers talking about change when what they really want is a fictitious trip backwards to a mythical past.

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From the Remainers who are scared of post-Brexit Britain and scared of our glorious past too. They can only cope with a continuous EU controlled ground hog day. Whereas we look to a bright new future for the UK.
Do Remainers only want the current vanilla conservatism or recent past new labour? Sorry but they are both off the new menu.

[StreetCowboy]

17 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

At least not green ink.

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To be honest, Brexit will not be the problem.  The problem will be the radicalisation of previously normal people into anti-establishment discontents who will never acknowledge their mistakes, and continuously blame the government and others for their misfortune, despite their role in undermining the government of parliament.  

 

Not only has Brexit set us against our neighbours, but it has also divided our own household, and diminished our institutions to the extent that we are led by buffoons and charlatans.

 

Unlike Nigel Farage, my children are not entitled to foreign passports, so they will have to live with whatever shambles in which Britain is left. 

[Loiner]

To be honest, Brexit will not be the problem.  The problem will be the radicalisation of previously normal people into anti-establishment discontents who will never acknowledge their mistakes, and continuously blame the government and others for their misfortune, despite their role in undermining the government of parliament.  
 
Not only has Brexit set us against our neighbours, but it has also divided our own household, and diminished our institutions to the extent that we are led by buffoons and charlatans.
 
Unlike Nigel Farage, my children are not entitled to foreign passports, so they will have to live with whatever shambles in which Britain is left. 

Some radicalisation is what we need, so long as it is the opposite of the Comrade Corbyn type. The establishment has proved itself to be the problem in our county. It’s full of Remainer and left leaning types so needs a clear out from the top down.
It’s has only become clear now through Brexit how the country has gradually been ground down by the political classes in all their guises of politicians and public sector quangos. It’s been bubbling under for years but brought to a head by the Remainers’ out and out hypocrisy and contempt of the masses. No wonder there is division at all levels.
Your children are fortunate that they will be able to thrive and prosper in postBrexit Britain and not be left under the EU jackboot.

[Nigel Garvie]

54 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

From the Remainers who are scared of post-Brexit Britain and scared of our glorious past too. They can only cope with a continuous EU controlled ground hog day. Whereas we look to a bright new future for the UK.
Do Remainers only want the current vanilla conservatism or recent past new labour? Sorry but they are both off the new menu.

 

Please - how can any sane human being be scared of the past (Glorious or not). It's gone, over, finished, never to return. Being scared of the future is logical, being scared of the past is delusional. (Unless you have a time machine of course!). 

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Please - how can any sane human being be scared of the past (Glorious or not). It's gone, over, finished, never to return. Being scared of the future is logical, being scared of the past is delusional. (Unless you have a time machine of course!). 

You need to try to think a bit too understand

[oldhippy]

33 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

 

Some radicalisation is what we need, so long as it is the opposite of the Comrade Corbyn type. The establishment has proved itself to be the problem in our county. It’s full of Remainer and left leaning types so needs a clear out from the top down.
It’s has only become clear now through Brexit how the country has gradually been ground down by the political classes in all their guises of politicians and public sector quangos. It’s been bubbling under for years but brought to a head by the Remainers’ out and out hypocrisy and contempt of the masses. No wonder there is division at all levels.
Your children are fortunate that they will be able to thrive and prosper in postBrexit Britain and not be left under the EU jackboot.

It makes me sad to see how the Lumpenprolitariaat keeps swallowing these stories, fed to them by wealthy populists.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers wanting to persuade us that they aren't the lunatics driving off the cliff

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How long do you honestly think the European union is going to last once we leave?take your blinkers off and look at the bigger picture

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

It makes me sad to see how the Lumpenprolitariaat keeps swallowing these stories, fed to them by wealthy populists.

Right on,what time do,'re the revolution start?

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

 

 

Some radicalisation is what we need, so long as it is the opposite of the Comrade Corbyn type. The establishment has proved itself to be the problem in our county. It’s full of Remainer and left leaning types so needs a clear out from the top down.
It’s has only become clear now through Brexit how the country has gradually been ground down by the political classes in all their guises of politicians and public sector quangos. It’s been bubbling under for years but brought to a head by the Remainers’ out and out hypocrisy and contempt of the masses. No wonder there is division at all levels.
Your children are fortunate that they will be able to thrive and prosper in postBrexit Britain and not be left under the EU jackboot.

 

 

Too true,the only reason the people voted leave was the scorn and contempt the politicians held the electorate in,now their little retirement sanitourium the European union has gone down the gurgler,and still the remain camp believe they,'re acting out of concern for the country,it,d be funny if it wasn,t so pathetic.

[SheungWan]

We should embrace the political change that is coming. Over the past twenty years or so, both of the two main parties have irreparably damaged the UK. Although some would say they are diverse, many of their policies have been very similar and it’s difficult to tell which side some of the politicians have been working for. The recent rash of defectors and rebels is typical of this.
Who knows if there will be a series of coalitions or outright winners. I think the chances are that the rise of newer parties like The Brexit Party will see them holding sway in the house. A Brexit Party or UKIP in government would be even better.
Either way, many of the old guard of self serving politicians will be voted out of a job at the next opportunity. All good change.

A bunch of contributions that can only be summarised as away with the fairies, Brexiteer style.

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[Scott]

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[brokenbone]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

How long do you honestly think the European union is going to last once we leave?take your blinkers off and look at the bigger picture

id prefer if only the able nations were eligible myself,

but its not the end, on contrary it may well be

the beginning of less welfare being tossed around,

nations forced to clean up their own <deleted>

and pay their own bills for the most part,

- a better EU

[transam]

7 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hilarious Hard Brexiteers talking about change when what they really want is a fictitious trip backwards to a mythical past.

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No, just want our streets and purse strings back. Our past shows we have the balls to do that, something you would not understand...

[transam]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

A bunch of contributions that can only be summarised as away with the fairies, Brexiteer style.

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I look forward to you posting something sensible...

[alan grice]

Perhaps the EU could consider how much the Poms have had to pay the Yanks back on their loans for WW2, whilst the Yanks helped re build Germany for Sweet FA..


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[brokenbone]

2 hours ago, alan grice said:

Perhaps the EU could consider how much the Poms have had to pay the Yanks back on their loans for WW2, whilst the Yanks helped re build Germany for Sweet FA..


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the yanks initially actively worked against german reconstruction, but when the signs were up

that soviet union was the next foe recognized they

would need german help, they flipped policy and started to

support the western europe rebuild for mutual defense, and it worked well enough

[Basil B]

Oh boy put his foot in it again, said he asked for her to intervene in the Scottish ref1, now the palace "Palace 'displeasure' at Cameron's Queen comments"   

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David Cameron's remarks on the Queen and the Scottish independence vote led to "an amount of displeasure" at Buckingham Palace, a source says.

The former PM told the BBC he had asked whether the Queen could "raise an eyebrow" about the prospect of Scotland voting for independence in the days before the 2014 referendum.

The Queen later urged people to "think very carefully about the future".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49756756

 

[DannyCarlton]

And it gets worse:

 

13:07

Government 'could seek another prorogation'

The government's written submission explaining what it would do if the court ruled against the prime minister has now been published.

Here's a summary of what it says:

• If the courts rule that the reason for prorogation was unlawful, but that proroguing Parliament for a similar length of time is not itself impossible, then the PM would not necessarily have to bring back Parliament before 14 October (although he might consider it)
• If the reasons were unlawful and the only available remedy in the opinion of the Supreme Court is to bring Parliament back immediately, then the PM would comply but would have to consider the timing of an earlier Queen's Speech
• If the court deems that the advice was unlawful and that prorogation never happened, the government argues there would be nothing to stop it immediately seeking another prorogation for lawful reasons

The government argues the courts cannot act pre-emptively to stop a prorogation that hasn’t yet been granted"

 

So if the court rules against him, he'll go straight back to the Queen and say, "Those dastardly Judges have cancelled my proroguation. Please can I have another one?"

 

The above was put to the court to warn them against finding against the government.

 

Not wise to threaten 11 supreme court justices.

 

[Slip]

^These two above are like that joke about only having one bullet.  

 

You have David Cameron, Nigel Farage, and Boris Johnson, but only one spare dungeon in the Tower of London to put one in, which one do does Her Maj clap in irons?

(Answer: "Tommeh" Islam, by all accounts- due time to free up some gaol space for the others your highness).

[Loiner]

You don’t like the Enemy of the State do you?
I didn’t realise he posed a serious threat to Remain.


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[bizboi]

On 9/17/2019 at 10:18 PM, Basil B said:

Suppose any impartial news media is if you are ultra right wing...

…and if youre not too!!

[bizboi]

On 9/19/2019 at 1:00 AM, SheungWan said:

Hilarious Hard Brexiteers talking about change when what they really want is a fictitious trip backwards to a mythical past.

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how about <deleted> that want a fictitious second vote?

[bizboi]

On 9/19/2019 at 1:02 AM, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers wanting to persuade us that they aren't the lunatics driving off the cliff

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only <deleted> see a cliff the rest see an oportunity