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Ubon Office - Refusal 65,000/Baht/Month - Annual Extension

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Below is the text of an email from a person in Ubon Ratchathani that has been refused his annual extension based on the 65,000/baht/month income.

 

It would appear that offices are making their own policy.

 

Inconsistent decisions make it very difficult for any person to know what the correct procedure is.

 

"Jeff
Went to immigration today and was refused a retirement visa extension based on monthly direct deposits. The new big boss took a quick look at my papers and when there was no bank book with 800,000b she returned my papers with not approved. It took about 10 seconds. She told two of the women to talk with me and refused my request to speak with her. I showed the one year bank statement and my proof of pension including my SSA statement and they could not say anything other than not approved by boss. They were clearly embarrassed. I had gone in a week ago and talked with the guy who always reviewed the financial papers and he said make sure you have a one year bank statement and proof of pension. None of that was even looked at. 
The ladies up front said go put 400,000b in the bank and come back with your wife and marriage papers and she would give me a 60 day visa then a one year marriage visa at the end if that. I did that and went back in at 4pm. The boss was gone and they were a little more open about the situation. It seems the new big boss wants money in the bank. We asked about the monthly direct deposit and all they could say was cannot. The money guy just shook his head when he looked at me. As we were leaving one of the ladies followed us outside and said they were very sorry and would make sure a got a visa when we come back on Friday. We asked what happened to the monthly direct deposit of more than 65,000b and she just said she did not know.
Not sure if this a new policy, a new policy at this office or just a bad day by the new boss. There was another American in there doing the same thing as us. 
I will do the 60 day Friday and then decide whether to do the full 800,000b and be done with it. "
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the subordinates will have to go along with the new boss sadly, then they get brainwashed into it. I wonder where corrupt boss came from

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I just got back from immigration at Sirinthorn, Ubon Province. I asked about this and was told that they do accept the monthly deposit. He could not answer for what went on at the Ubon office. 

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@Seafarer124 I hope you asked permission to post the guy's email on here.

 

Two things that stood out from the original post: This guy tried to present a SSA statement (American?) and he didn't have his wife (interpreter) with him. So we really don't know what was said and what the "real" reason is for the refusal.  

 

Ask the guy if he'd like to come on here and provide more clarity as to what was not accepted

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Really don't know why people continue to bother with this method it's a constant fail.

 

Oh yeah, they don't have the money.

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6 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Really don't know why people continue to bother with this method it's a constant fail.

 

Oh yeah, they don't have the money.

Since a number of posters have indicated success with the income method, it is not a "constant fail". However, it does appear that many immigration offices are flat out refusing the combination method, and some the income method. If I were refused, I would specifically hire an agent that could accomplish a run-around of the arrogant uncooperative IO.

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2 hours ago, timendres said:

Since a number of posters have indicated success with the income method, it is not a "constant fail". However, it does appear that many immigration offices are flat out refusing the combination method, and some the income method. If I were refused, I would specifically hire an agent that could accomplish a run-around of the arrogant uncooperative IO.

*a number*

 

Too funny, the guy shows up to some provincial immigration stop and shop with no bank book and a pile of paper which are no doubt Internet printouts. He wants a year's stay.

 

It's no arrogance they just don't want to sift through a pile of complicated paperwork and neither would I. Just like the ballsy lies based on dubious affidavit most of this paperwork is not correct. I'm not stating this is the case of OP.

 

I disagree. In fact, I think the record of achieving this puts it in the realm of waste of time. Further, it's only for chancers. Won't be long before they simply insist that every have money in the bank.

 

Hire an agent because that worked so well in the past. Only a matter of time before that loophole closes. You obviously don't have the 800k. Now please tell me how you don't trust the banks here. Hire an agent because putting money in bank too easy.

 

Just chancers now. Everyone else knows better. Good luck with the fixer.

 

For the OP 400k will do it. The paperwork is not much. No idea if they do house visits and similar drama but the paperwork can be assembled in an afternoon.

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2 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Really don't know why people continue to bother with this method it's a constant fail.

 

Oh yeah, they don't have the money.

Mine was a complete success, despite the IO having to trawl through almost the 40 pages of income detail that replaced the single embassy letter. (I'm working on trimming that for next year!)

 

So no, it is not a constant failure at all and I'm certainly not the only one.

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25 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Mine was a complete success, despite the IO having to trawl through almost the 40 pages of income detail that replaced the single embassy letter. (I'm working on trimming that for next year!)

 

So no, it is not a constant failure at all and I'm certainly not the only one.

 For most countries,Rules: Retirement 800k or 65k p/m. Must have bank letter and show bank book with 800k in the bank for 3 months or show 12 months of 65k or more deposits from a foreign source.

This is the only way to keep in step with Thailand's different IO interpretation of the new requirements.

IMOP  it must be a terrible burden on one's mind to have that 65k watermark be met every month especially with the exchange rate being so unpredictable 

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These smaller rural offices are all little fiefdoms!

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