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Non-O visa extension problem after move to another province

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I have a non-O visa based on retirement and 800k in the bank.  It was issued by Immigration in the province of Nonthaburi.  I have since moved to Bangkok, and registered myself there with a TM30 at BKK Immigration.  Following this move, I needed to obtain an extension to the visa for one year (retirement extension).  I applied for this at BKK but it was denied on the grounds that a visa issued in Nonthaburi could only be extended by Nonthaburi Immigration.  I protested that I no longer had an address there, and was fully resident in Bangkok, and I would surely be denied also at Nonthaburi.  I was assured that it could be done, so I made application there, but was refused just as I expected.  Eventually I did get my extension there with the help of a Thai friend who knew somebody who knew somebody etc.....   This was a one time only thing.  I cannot do this again. 

Now, here is my dilemma; I will have to apply for another extension early next year.  My condo lease will have expired by then so I will be able to move back to Nonthaburi by renting a condo there, if that is the only way I can solve this issue.  But I prefer to stay in BKK if possible, but only if I can be certain that I will be able extend my visa there when required.  I cannot face that nightmare of being denied at both  places again, so I am looking for some help.  Please, would anyone who has a visa from another province and has been able to extend it here in BKK tell me about it, and how it was done?  Alternatively, it seems that the wise thing for me to do would be to go back and live in Nonthaburi again, do a TM30 there, and hope I could thereafter extend the visa at Nonthaburi Immigration in the usual way.  Is this the better option?  

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Wow, what a horror story.  I feel for you.

For sure you will get some good advice from senior TVF members on how to manage this without having to move temporarily to Nonthaburi, to get your extension of stay approved.

If nothings works, then an alternative could be, when you visit your home-country, to re-apply for a Non Imm OA Visa there.  The additional advantage of that being that the 800K in the thai bank you currently have will be freed up, as there is no need for that during your 1 year visa validity, as well as during the 1st year of your extension of stay.  Another minor advantage being that no re-entry permits will be necessary while the new Visa is valid.

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3 hours ago, roberta said:

I cannot face that nightmare of being denied at both  places again, so I am looking for some help.

Get an agent. Done.

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Did you request to talk to the chief of immigration at the Bangkok office? 

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5 hours ago, Why Me said:

Get an agent. Done.

+1 Get an agent. I've had an agent handle my retirement ext. for the past decade. Everything is kosher, all my docs are in order and I have more than the required amount in a Thai bank, but I have no stomach for dealing with Thai Imm myself, so I pay a pro to cut through the nonsense.

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I doubt an agent can solve this long term.

 

Exit. Go to ?? Savanakhet. Bring your book with 800k. Get an O visa. Return and extend that.

 

Pretty absurd. That would also mean that anyone in BKK relocating to the sticks would need to start all over as well. I doubt this true.

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In reply to above message:  when I went to BKK Immigration to report my change of address last January, I filled out and submitted both TM28 and TM30.  The officer handed back to me the TM28 with the words "we don't use this one anymore".

They fully accepted that I had changed my residence address.  That was not the issue.  In fact the officer to whom I presented my full set of documents accepted everything, and then passed the folder on to the next higher authority.  After waiting about an hour outside I was called back in and told that it had been rejected by that higher authority.  Someone "upstairs", as they called it.

 

I think that if I actually move "permanently" back to Nonthaburi and register my address as soon as I move, that should remove the impediment and allow my next and future extensions to proceed as normal. 

 

I am still hoping to hear from someone who has managed to get a visa issued in another province extended in Bangkok...      

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Your non o visa is valid all over the thailand, not only for one province.

No matter what IO has issued the visa.

So if you have declared your change of adress (And obviously you did it

i am just surprise they don't accept your TM28, wich is the form to do it)

there is no reason to refuse your extension

(If the others conditions are filled of course)

If i understand well you have now your extension of stay based on the retirment

issued by Bkk immigration, i do not see why they are not going to give you another

extension of sty for one more year, you have now nothing more to do with Nonthaburi

they don't know you anymore. for them you are now in the area of BKK immi.

When i have moved fom chiang Rai to Pattaya i was on the same extension of stay delivered by CR imm

at the date of expiration, i have had a new delivered with no problem at all by Jomtiem imm.

Before moving from CR i have asked what was the process for this and they have been very clear

when i am register in a new immigration office, i have no more to do with the old one.

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Why Me said:

Get an agent. Done.

Yes, or get a brand new Non-Imm-O and start again. 

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The non O visa is issued by immigration office only for an accepted extension of stay process at that office.  It is not a Consulate issued visa valid for entry we are talking about.  She is trying to do the extension in another location other than where issued.

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