webfact Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Mexican authorities find 29 bodies in a hundred plastic bags By Lizbeth Diaz Forensic vehicles and government officials are seen near a clandestine grave while resuming the search for human remains after authorities found bodies packed in plastic bags, in the municipality of Zapopan, outskirts of Guadalajara September 18, 2019. REUTERS/Fernando Carranza MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican authorities said on Tuesday they had found 29 bodies, packed in more than a hundred plastic bags, dumped in a clandestine grave in the violent western state of Jalisco. Murders in Mexico jumped to the highest on record in the first half of the year, putting the cartel-ravaged country on track to surpass the 29,111 recorded last year. Jalisco Attorney General Gerardo Solis told a news conference that since making the gruesome discovery in Zapopan municipality the first week of September, investigators had counted 13 complete and 16 incomplete bodies. The state government and the state attorney general said two of the victims were women, and that at least four had criminal records, without specifying their crimes. The body count could go up as the investigation progressed, according to a source at the state attorney general's office who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media. In Mexico, cartels often kidnap and kill their rivals, many of whom are buried in clandestine graves scattered across the country. Authorities have not yet said whether the mass grave was related to cartel violence, although Jalisco is home to several cartels, including one of the country's most notorious. Jalisco New Generation Cartel, according to U.S. authorities, is one of the five most dangerous criminal organizations in the world. (Reporting by Lizbeth Diaz; Writing by Stefanie Eschenbacher; Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-19 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Troll post reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The hard working good people of Mexico deserve better than this I hope with all my heart they get a handle on the narcos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 So three bags or so per body. Learn something new everyday. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Tug said: The hard working good people of Mexico deserve better than this I hope with all my heart they get a handle on the narcos it would be a lot easier if the American market went away.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: it would be a lot easier if the American market went away.. True and also the massive imports of GUNS from the U.S. into Mexico. Quote Nearly All Of Mexico's Gun Violence Is Committed With Illegal Firearms Coming From U.S., Officials Say https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-all-mexico-violence-fueled-illegal-us-guns-1453694 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Bourne Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The authorities know who all these cartel scum are so why don't they just carpet bomb their homes, estates,ranches and buildings? Modern day petrol bombs incinerate everything. They're very cheap to make . Obviously law enforcement / courts etc is one of America's biggest employers. Won't happen like it does in Sicario1&2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said: The authorities know who all these cartel scum are so why don't they just carpet bomb their homes, estates,ranches and buildings? Modern day petrol bombs incinerate everything. They're very cheap to make . Obviously law enforcement / courts etc is one of America's biggest employers. Won't happen like it does in Sicario1&2. And the cartels are some of the Mexican authorities' biggest employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said: The authorities know who all these cartel scum are so why don't they just carpet bomb their homes, estates,ranches and buildings? Modern day petrol bombs incinerate everything. They're very cheap to make . Obviously law enforcement / courts etc is one of America's biggest employers. Won't happen like it does in Sicario1&2. Funny that you provide your solution...then mention Sicario. This ain't the movies. Law enforcement, government officials, and the cartels are intertwined to the point of almost being indiscernible. It would take a revolution, ala Castro or Chavez or Gaddafi, to right this country. Of course, the leader of said revolution can't be allowed to stay in power too long, otherwise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: True and also the massive imports of GUNS from the U.S. into Mexico. https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-all-mexico-violence-fueled-illegal-us-guns-1453694 Use to spend 2-3 months a year in Barra de Navidad on the Pacific coast and a lot of time in PV prior to that . The experience I've had here in Thailand almost occurred in Mexico including marrying a local, wasn't till I worked in the KSA and consequently rr'd here that my plans changed. Great country with excellent people all just another casualty from the war on drugs. 20-30 yrs from now, when many of the great dinosaurs are dead, we're going to say 'what the hell were we doing?'. They'll say in history class ' Imagine that, they treated known medical issues and the pursuit for intoxication as criminal behavior and created the biggest and costliest debacles in law enforcement history. Not to mention enriched huge groups of psychopathic criminals beyond their wildest dreams. The victims are worldwide. It's time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syduan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: Use to spend 2-3 months a year in Barra de Navidad on the Pacific coast and a lot of time in PV prior to that . The experience I've had here in Thailand almost occurred in Mexico including marrying a local, wasn't till I worked in the KSA and consequently rr'd here that my plans changed. Great country with excellent people all just another casualty from the war on drugs. 20-30 yrs from now, when many of the great dinosaurs are dead, we're going to say 'what the hell were we doing?'. They'll say in history class ' Imagine that, they treated known medical issues and the pursuit for intoxication as criminal behavior and created the biggest and costliest debacles in law enforcement history. Not to mention enriched huge groups of psychopathic criminals beyond their wildest dreams. The victims are worldwide. It's time for a change. Had to post this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Most of the killing here is done with a similar lethal weapon the pickup with a more random approach than hacking up rival cartel members???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkleGoooose Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 This is truly awful, when you consider that the rest of the world is trying to cut down on plastic use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, webfact said: Murders in Mexico jumped to the highest on record in the first half of the year, putting the cartel-ravaged country on track to surpass the 29,111 recorded last year. One of the reasons I hold off on moving to Mexico and leaving Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Do the math. With drugs illegal cartels kill 29,000 and billions spent fighting drug use. Ask yourself, if drugs were legal, besides saving those billions of dollars, how many would die from their usage? Sure, many would be hospitalized, but with 29,000 dead annually in this war, just how many are wounded physically or mentally and end up hospitalized? But I do like the idea of carpet bombing their hideouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just never understood the attraction of putting drugs/chemicals into ones body. But I guess there is no shortage of people who do it...if there wasn't a market, there would be no reason for a supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, Jingthing said: True and also the massive imports of GUNS from the U.S. into Mexico. https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-all-mexico-violence-fueled-illegal-us-guns-1453694 Mexico should build a wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, from the home of CC said: Use to spend 2-3 months a year in Barra de Navidad on the Pacific coast and a lot of time in PV prior to that . The experience I've had here in Thailand almost occurred in Mexico including marrying a local, wasn't till I worked in the KSA and consequently rr'd here that my plans changed. Great country with excellent people all just another casualty from the war on drugs. 20-30 yrs from now, when many of the great dinosaurs are dead, we're going to say 'what the hell were we doing?'. They'll say in history class ' Imagine that, they treated known medical issues and the pursuit for intoxication as criminal behavior and created the biggest and costliest debacles in law enforcement history. Not to mention enriched huge groups of psychopathic criminals beyond their wildest dreams. The victims are worldwide. It's time for a change. The war on drugs is a war on the people to benefit the corrupt, supported by the cynical and cheered on by the truly ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Berkshire said: Funny that you provide your solution...then mention Sicario. This ain't the movies. Law enforcement, government officials, and the cartels are intertwined to the point of almost being indiscernible. It would take a revolution, ala Castro or Chavez or Gaddafi, to right this country. Of course, the leader of said revolution can't be allowed to stay in power too long, otherwise.... Castro or Chavez or Gaddafi,.555..All corrupt dictators and torturers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said: 19 hours ago, Berkshire said: Funny that you provide your solution...then mention Sicario. This ain't the movies. Law enforcement, government officials, and the cartels are intertwined to the point of almost being indiscernible. It would take a revolution, ala Castro or Chavez or Gaddafi, to right this country. Of course, the leader of said revolution can't be allowed to stay in power too long, otherwise.... Castro or Chavez or Gaddafi,.555..All corrupt dictators and torturers.. No sht Sherlock. They weren't evil dictators when they started. But they became one because they stayed too long under absolute rule....a point I made which you conveniently ignored. The fact is Mexico is hopelessly broken. It would take something radical to change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 13 hours ago, zydeco said: One of the reasons I hold off on moving to Mexico and leaving Thailand. Don't worry. Mexico will catch up to Thailand soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, wisperone said: Just never understood the attraction of putting drugs/chemicals into ones body. But I guess there is no shortage of people who do it...if there wasn't a market, there would be no reason for a supply. Hmmmm.....do you drink alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 29 only !!! Perhaps there are more, keep looking for more wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Headline reminded me of a bit from one of Stephen King's novels (maybe The Dark Tower or one of those he wrote with Peter Straub?): "Whats worse than a baby nailed to a tree?...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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