elmrfudd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: I am suggesting from your post, that your objectivity is severely lacking, from being able to have a rationale discourse. Perhaps all need to await the outcome from the Inspector General? yes, good idea. then perhaps you can have a word with all the previous posters about the vacuous assumptions and presumptions of guilt. but then I do not see you asking about their "objectivity" at all, is that just an oversight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevenl said: So the inspector general is not objective. That's the only possible conclusion from your post. He's surely a leftist! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, elmrfudd said: in your mind it is i guess. I guess you can ignore the previous claims made by others as to preconceived guilt and results, that would not be objective though This is an official complaint from an intelligence person with close connections to POTUS, not some one with a political axe to grind. Furthermore the Inspector General has deemed the complaint credible. Surely all need to await the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: and some on TVF here Too much winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: you mean the same crew of TVF leftists that have been after the same result for 3 years regardless of actual factual evidence and have been peddling assumptions and innuendos? like that "objectivity"?? the lack of objectivity is precisely the problem. and some still believe there was no collusion no obstruction 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: yes, good idea. then perhaps you can have a word with all the previous posters about the vacuous assumptions and presumptions of guilt. but then I do not see you asking about their "objectivity" at all, is that just an oversight? Seems like it's you who is acting all offended? I wonder why? Very few people here have posited that the president has done anything nefarious. Sure, it looks unusual, but hey, he dished to Lavrov in the Oval Office so what the heck. I think most simply want the IC IG to release his report to Congress, as is proscribed by various rules and laws. Surely that's not unrealistic now is it? I'm sure that call to Vladdy Daddy was really about Siberian Wildfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: This is an official complaint from an intelligence person with close connections to POTUS, not some one with a political axe to grind. Furthermore the Inspector General has deemed the complaint credible. Surely all need to await the outcome. when did I say we should not wait for the outcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: when did I say we should not wait for the outcome? Your post read as though " nothing to see here, move along" defence without any evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said: Your post read as though " nothing to see here, move along" defence without any evidence. no, but I am sure you saw it that way. I said the same TVF leftists will make ridiculous assumptions, and they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: in your mind it is i guess. I guess you can ignore the previous claims made by others as to preconceived guilt and results, that would not be objective though Just look at it a bit more objectively. Why do you think the inspector general considers the complaint credible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chokrai Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: It may be impossible to remove him. He has his loyal Quislings in the senate so they'll never convict an impeachment. If he loses the 2020 election he's already setting up the rationale to not willingly leave office and his heavily armed hard core fans follow him into anything without any critical thinking. A LANDSLIDE win by the democrats would be the best bet but not likely because of the pro-republican structure of the electoral college. You really are full of nonsense sometimes. I dont think I have seen a worse case of TDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, chokrai said: You really are full of nonsense sometimes. I dont think I have seen a worse case of TDS. So what is nonsense in the post you gave this very insightful reply to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Trump makes his own rules, and does his own thing. America's allies really wonder what next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chokrai Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, stevenl said: So what is nonsense in the post you gave this very insightful reply to? All of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, chokrai said: All of it. Verifiable true that the electoral college favours the republicans. Verifiable true that this senate will not impeach Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chokrai Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: Verifiable true that the electoral college favours the republicans. Verifiable true that this senate will not impeach Trump. Yeah and his hardcore heavily armed supporters are going to storm the Whitehouse to keep him in power forever if he decides he is not going to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, chokrai said: Yeah and his hardcore heavily armed supporters are going to storm the Whitehouse to keep him in power forever if he decides he is not going to leave. Ok, so you agree with 2 claims in his post, disagree with 1 and find that reason to proclaim the full post nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chokrai Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, stevenl said: Ok, so you agree with 2 claims in his post, disagree with 1 and find that reason to proclaim the full post nonsense. Yeah you really got me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 minute ago, chokrai said: Yeah you really got me there. With your tds that's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Your obsession with a repeated perceived narrative and desired outcome is even more suspicious, and very sad indeed. But predictableYour denial of real issues is much more predictable. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 You really are full of nonsense sometimes. I dont think I have seen a worse case of TDS. Hardly nonsense anyone that has been paying attention. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Berkshire said: Although this could be a serious allegation, I wonder if it would even move the needle. If Trump were to have offered Putin sanction relief in exchange for $1 billion to Trump's personal account, his supporters probably still won't care. There is something seriously wrong with these people. 6 hours ago, Berkshire said: Although this could be a serious allegation, I wonder if it would even move the needle. If Trump were to have offered Putin sanction relief in exchange for $1 billion to Trump's personal account, his supporters probably still won't care. There is something seriously wrong with these people. More conspiracy theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, riclag said: More conspiracy theories Who needs conspiracy theories when we have a whistleblower report? Lets see the report and the transcripts of its subject telephone call. Wriggle all you wish, this isn’t going to be swept under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Who needs conspiracy theories when we have a whistleblower report? Lets see the report and the transcripts of its subject telephone call. Wriggle all you wish, this isn’t going to be swept under the carpet. The Post, which cited two former officials familiar with the matter, said it was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver A familiar accusation by god knows who that are familiar with god knows what lol Your goin to get disappointed again by these gotcha moments, cheer up you'll get a better chance of fulfilling your fantasies in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, riclag said: The Post, which cited two former officials familiar with the matter, said it was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver A familiar accusation by god knows who that are familiar with god knows what lol Your goin to get disappointed again by these gotcha moments, cheer up you'll get a better chance of fulfilling your fantasies in 2020 If you believe there’s nothing to worry about, calm down and relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 It must be serious. Trump hasn't come up with a Twitter excuse yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Mavideol said: and some still believe there was no collusion no obstruction 555 just like some still believe Hilary and Bill are innocent. Even Mueller said there was no collusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: just like some still believe Hilary and Bill are innocent. Even Mueller said there was no collusion. "Even Mueller said there was no collusion." I Think Trump and Barr said it. Trump's supporters definitely say it. Mueller? Not really. These 11 Mueller Report Myths Just Won’t Die. Here’s Why They’re Wrong https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/ The first item on the list is exactly that. As if it wasn't done to death on related topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Trump is doing exactly what he wanted to do, he is controlling the news cycle! We're here talking about this "whistle blower" rather than things that are important. In the end he'll claim that he can say anything to anybody that he wants to and he has the power to "declassify" anything that he wants to. Yeah, it would be nice to know but doubt that it is anything that is out of the norm for Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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