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My recent TM30 experience at Jomtien Immigration

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In August I went to immigration in Jomtien and renewed my visa for another year. I'm not at retirement age yet. I have opted for the 5 year Thailand Elite visa. This visa has turned out to very cost effecting imo and saved me a load of hassle. 

 

To renew the visa I had to do the TM30 for the first time. No issue. I've got a house in company name, no Thai master of the house, so I reported myself by myself and they seemed to be happy with just the blue house book. No chanoote or company papers asked for. Silly isn't it!

 

After that I went on 10 day break with my kid to an island. I was under the impression if you left the province when you came back you had to do another TM30. Being that the hotel I stayed at should of reported me at their local immigration while staying with them.

 

I went back to Jomtien on my return and they said I didn't have to do it again - it is only if I leave the country.

 

Am I getting preferential treatment because of the Thailand Elite visa? Have I got it wrong? Or do they pick and choose the rules.

 

Regards,

 

Hank.

 

 

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I was told the very same thing at the tm30 desk and I think I told them I was on retirement extensions. So no I don't think you got elite treatment. I was told no fine for entering the system initially if you never have before. New one when reentering from outside Thailand. Not to do if returning from another province.

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No I do not believe you are receiving any preferential treatment. Just a more flexible attitude that Jomtiem seems to have wrt TM30s.

Also glad to hear no hassle wrt having a house in company name, as I do. I am of retirement age and do have a retirement extension and wondered what might happen this year on renewal. Perhaps a first time TM30 for me too.

 

We are fortunate, as a friend in a rural North Thailand office was required to submit and copy the company documentation along with the extension application!

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Jinthing - Cool. They need to get their ducks in a row don't they and make it clear to all - typical though for Thailand. I heard on Fabulous 103 FM the other day clear it was every time after leaving your province. 

 

I don't mind doing it when entering the country if those are the rules then so be it. It is not much of a hassle really. Every time you leave the province to return to your own house is ridiculous.

 

Jacko45k - I must have got away with it then it would be a pain to get the house docs from lawyer everytime. Proceed until apprehended comes to mind.

 

Regards,

 

Hank

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13 minutes ago, HenryC said:

Jinthing - Cool. They need to get their ducks in a row don't they and make it clear to all - typical though for Thailand. I heard on Fabulous 103 FM the other day clear it was every time after leaving your province. 

 

I don't mind doing it when entering the country if those are the rules then so be it. It is not much of a hassle really. Every time you leave the province to return to your own house is ridiculous.

 

Jacko45k - I must have got away with it then it would be a pain to get the house docs from lawyer everytime. Proceed until apprehended comes to mind.

 

Regards,

 

Hank

I wouldn't put any faith in anything from 103 fm, they often get it wrong. 

Amongst other misimformation they have said it was all embassies stopping income letters, insurance will be required for everyone and TM28 is an enforced requirement.

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But surely if you come back into Thailand via an airport from visiting another country, by completing the Arrival Card you don't need to file a TM30 because you have already declared your residing address on the Arrivals Card?

 

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It's OK to be confused.  Thai Immigration is confused also as the different immigration offices around the country have different interpretations/views of TM30 requirements.

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11 hours ago, BoonToong said:

But surely if you come back into Thailand via an airport from visiting another country, by completing the Arrival Card you don't need to file a TM30 because you have already declared your residing address on the Arrivals Card?

 

Confused.

That is logical  BoonToong you think too much like farang, LOL. IMO's dont care they interpret the rules their way if they can see 1600 baht easily enough.

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11 hours ago, Pib said:

It's OK to be confused.  Thai Immigration is confused also as the different immigration offices around the country have different interpretations/views of TM30 requirements.

Maybe we can make a TM 30 day like Xmas day, say April 1st?

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i also opted for the Thai Elite for 5 years, we had a retirement visa but Immigration started to stuff around with my wife's visa which had been done correctly for the past 10 years so i told them to stuff it and i bought TE 5 years for her and once saw how effective it was and no need to deal with Immigration at least for another 5 years i also took TE. i know its not for everyone due to the cost but its takes a lot of headaches away dealing with these people. there are savings involved for various things let alone yearly visa fees and then having to employ our lawyers to submit at a substantial cost as it seems if some legal does it they dont hassle them unlike us chopping and changing documents required. now lets just hope they scrap the TM30 reporting as this seems absolutely ridiculous hopefully the European pressure put on the thais now and all the bad press about TM30 they will change mind and drop it... then please also make the 90 days reporting more user friendly and not having to use old computers with Internet Explorer to sign in i read they are supposingly putting out an app we can use on our mobiles to do this. please hurry up with it..

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1 hour ago, legend49 said:

Maybe we can make a TM 30 day like Xmas day, say April 1st?

Seems the yearly extension should be adequate.

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13 hours ago, BoonToong said:

But surely if you come back into Thailand via an airport from visiting another country, by completing the Arrival Card you don't need to file a TM30 because you have already declared your residing address on the Arrivals Card?

 

Confused.

You would think this is the case?  but it isn't at Jomtien they want you to come down and file another which is what I was told.

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21 hours ago, HenryC said:

I was under the impression if you left the province when you came back you had to do another TM30.

I can only speak from my own experience and what others have posted here on TVF.

 

My immigration office confirmed that every time I go out of my province and stay for more than 24 hours, I (my wife), being my landlady has to submit a TM30 report. 

 

They told us to apply online for a password which she did and she got it a week alter with their assistance as the application is forwarded to them online as they have all of my records.

 

As we are heading overseas soon, we were also told when we return to our province, we must log in and report online, so for me, it's everytime I out out of my province, regardless if its domestic or international, the TM6 has nothing to do with the TM30, with the TM6 recently reported to be scrapped if you can believe anything you hear from these guys.

 

On the final stretch, I have heard that other officers are relaxed about the TM30, e.g. no need for domestic, but then again I have also read that, and someone coming back from the same office saying the opposite, so if they tell you no need, request it in writing for safe keeping because if things change, you will be the one paying the fine.

 

I have the extension based on being married to a Thai, and I think it makes no difference to the type of extension/visa you have.

 

Hope you get some kind of clarification from your immigration office real soon now.

 

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My experience: I was told at Jomtien that as I am on retirement extensions and resident at the same address for a number of years I do not need to do the TM 30 report. I leave the country at least every two months.

Maybe time to reconfirm before my next extension April 2020.

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