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another reason for burning is the sugarcane harvest. Cheaper that way and marketprices of the cane makes it too expensive for farmers to use machinary and/or more labor.

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This from Pontianak, Indonesia on Monday. Just to put the Chiang Mai burning in perspective?

 

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I know two wrongs don't make a right. But I doubt it ever gets this bad?

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25 minutes ago, Chazar said:

Ok well down here round Prachuap weve  been asked  by head of  village to NOT  burn the old pineapples when we  replant, in fact  we  left them 5  years instead of two and still got a  half  decent  crop .

Usually they are changed out after 2 fruits  have been and gone.

Theres  an extra  cost to us of  about 5000 baht on 10  rai for not  burning and that why farmers do  burn.

Head  of  village said they are handing out fines now for burning here, whether they get paid I don't know.

Instead of the burn a machine chops em up and another ploughs them into he ground, normally they just get burnt  then ploughed in.

I dont mind doing this if EVERYONE round about complies, Ive already seen close by another neighbour start to burn his  field of  rice he got it half done before he was stopped and allegedly  fined.

Now the "Thai" part creeps  in.......head of  village says to my Wife, dont burn it  in the day "just  burn at  night" nobody will check then!!!! So what hope for air  pollution. We  chopped and ploughed them anyway.

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Yeah it can always be shifted to fit. Burn at night and yo won't get caught. And in the day time we will pretend not to see your field is burned. 

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22 hours ago, connda said:

I live in a mountain valley in rural Northeastern Lamphun province and I can assure you that most of the smoke was coming from the numerous forest fires up and down the valley. I'm talking about what I was seeking with my own eyes. The ag burning, when it's allowed, contributes.  But the main smoke arose for scores of fires in the mountains set above the villages, at least in the area where I live.  It's common knowledge among the locals here that villagers set these fires to burn off the forest undergrowth so that they can collect mushrooms during the Rain Season.  But on the flip side, nobody knows who the arsonists are!!!  But everyone goes and picks mushrooms. 

Rice field burning is much earlier, around Nov-Dec

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On 9/20/2019 at 8:22 PM, connda said:

I live in a mountain valley in rural Northeastern Lamphun province and I can assure you that most of the smoke was coming from the numerous forest fires up and down the valley. I'm talking about what I was seeking with my own eyes. The ag burning, when it's allowed, contributes.  But the main smoke arose for scores of fires in the mountains set above the villages, at least in the area where I live.  It's common knowledge among the locals here that villagers set these fires to burn off the forest undergrowth so that they can collect mushrooms during the Rain Season.  But on the flip side, nobody knows who the arsonists are!!!  But everyone goes and picks mushrooms. 

I live in Ampur Ban Hong (Lamphun province).    What area are you living in ?  N.E. Lamphun ?   Mountainous?    Just curious..

In my area the townspeople and orchard owners are not burning during the burning ban ( but of course that is only 2 months).   Also the big fires are coming from the mountains that are not far away

Damn,   hope its going to be better this year.   Doubt it

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Contrary to Indonesia, in Thailand they don't burn to plant palm tree. They burn sugar cane for easier harvesting. Rice and corn debris because they don't know better. Whole forest because it's easier to harvest mushroom later.

 

Last seasons, I checked the fire map and Cambodia was the worst. For some reasons the wind pushed the smoke to eastern and central Thailand worsening Thailand's smog. 

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This is part of what is going on there , too ... https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-49741285/stratford-vet-tries-to-save-orangutan-shot-130-times

It is connected to the palm oil plantations . Not enough that hey destroy the forest ...

So sad .

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