Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 i've had several emails from "grace" with offers of visa assistance, apparently someone at immigration sold a list of emails. again. got another one today........from royal visa services in pattaya. wow! a "guaranteed retirement visa at a low, fixed price" with their "new executive visa service." but isn't this part illegal: "We provide the 800,000 baht (required bank balance)" 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatDraco Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 Illegal has a different meaning here. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tayaout Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 Illegal can become legal when using the right color of envelope. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Me too (is one allowed to use that expression these days) Royal visa. "They have my email because I was at one of their sites and agreed to receive emails from them", a lie, I have never considered using an agent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I get this %^&* also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Good news...if its true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sheryl said: I get this %^&* also. If someone has posted a like on one of my posts and I check to see who ir was many times I suddenly get either a full page visa company offer or a lawyers site on company set up etc. I have to close it to get back to what I want to see. Edited September 22, 2019 by overherebc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Sheryl said: I get this %^&* also. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'd be interested to know if the people receiving these "suggestions of illegal activities" are using the 90 days and/or TM30 apps. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: i've had several emails from "grace" with offers of visa assistance, apparently someone at immigration sold a list of emails. again. got another one today........from royal visa services in pattaya. wow! a "guaranteed retirement visa at a low, fixed price" with their "new executive visa service." but isn't this part illegal: "We provide the 800,000 baht (required bank balance)" It depends how they do it. If they put 800K in a bank account in the applicants name they haven't broken any rules/laws because there is nothing stopping someone borrowing the money. That said, if the person signing off the case wasn't in on the scam, and found out, they probably wouldn't issue the extension. If the agent is supplying fake documents it's fraud. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) truly ….. you guys are your own worst enemy. You always want to tell the world what Thailand is doing as you don't know if it's legal or not .. lol ... Momofarang ? why the heck would you be interested to know ? is it any of your business what others do ??? who give a rats what 'grace' does ?? lol I couldn't care less what others do as I have the correct legit visa for my circumstance and I hope you do also. Edited September 22, 2019 by steven100 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, elviajero said: If they put 800K in a bank account in the applicants name they haven't broken any rules/laws because there is nothing stopping someone borrowing the money. 800k for 5 months, and 400k for the rest of the year? Edited September 22, 2019 by Momofarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted September 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Momofarang said: 800k for 5 months, and 400k for the rest of the year? That's not how it's done. The common way they do it is to put the funds in an account long enough to get a letter from the bank. They are in partnership with a bent IO who signs off the file waiving the 2/3 month seasoning period. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, elviajero said: It depends how they do it. If they put 800K in a bank account in the applicants name they haven't broken any rules/laws because there is nothing stopping someone borrowing the money. That said, if the person signing off the case wasn't in on the scam, and found out, they probably wouldn't issue the extension. If the agent is supplying fake documents it's fraud. i'd assume that if you use their "New, Guaranteed, Retirement Visa at a Low Fixed Price" First-time retirement visa: 25000 baht Renewal of visa: 17000 baht then you'll be hooked. the special deal with the special io for the very special price won't give you a bankbook in your name showing funds in the account 800/5 and 400/12. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Maybe someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I thought it's up to the IO whether the money requirements are essential before issuing the retirement extension? So a retirement extension could be issued with no money in the bank but for other extenuating circumstances. These would have been agreed to beforehand with the likes of 'grace'? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, steven100 said: truly ….. you guys are your own worst enemy. You always want to tell the world what Thailand is doing as you don't know if it's legal or not .. lol ... Momofarang ? why the heck would you be interested to know ? is it any of your business what others do ??? who give a rats what 'grace' does ?? lol I couldn't care less what others do as I have the correct legit visa for my circumstance and I hope you do also. you don't mind government officials selling your personal information? sure, it's just an email address.....as far as we know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said: Maybe someone could correct me if I'm wrong but I thought it's up to the IO whether the money requirements are essential before issuing the retirement extension? So a retirement extension could be issued with no money in the bank but for other extenuating circumstances. These would have been agreed to beforehand with the likes of 'grace'? Anything can be waived as long as the IO signing off is authorised to do so. Several years ago I helped an old boy get a 1 year extension of stay with a long overstay and no money in the bank. It was legitimately signed off at divisional level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momofarang Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 hours ago, steven100 said: truly ….. you guys are your own worst enemy. You always want to tell the world what Thailand is doing as you don't know if it's legal or not .. lol ... Momofarang ? why the heck would you be interested to know ? is it any of your business what others do ??? who give a rats what 'grace' does ?? lol I couldn't care less what others do as I have the correct legit visa for my circumstance and I hope you do also. Naahh.. It is just, that in general, I am for law and order. I guess you'll say that I am in the wrong place. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 In general so am I. But not everything is general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 hours ago, overherebc said: If someone has posted a like on one of my posts and I check to see who ir was many times I suddenly get either a full page visa company offer or a lawyers site on company set up etc. I have to close it to get back to what I want to see. +1. Been going on for a week or so. TV are top of my list of suspects; advertising revenue, simple as ... though annoying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 hours ago, rott said: In general so am I. But not everything is general. Under the current administration everything is General. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onera1961 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: but isn't this part illegal: "We provide the 800,000 baht (required bank balance)" Who said it is illegal? Only self appointed lawyers in this forum who would violate 100 laws at their conveneine but afraid to suggest it is not illegal unless a court says so. Edited September 23, 2019 by onera1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onera1961 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Momofarang said: 800k for 5 months, and 400k for the rest of the year? Only for sexpats to put a break on their illegal activites without paying tributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Momofarang said: I'd be interested to know if the people receiving these "suggestions of illegal activities" are using the 90 days and/or TM30 apps. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverJackson331 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 9:02 PM, ChouDoufu said: i'd assume that if you use their "New, Guaranteed, Retirement Visa at a Low Fixed Price" First-time retirement visa: 25000 baht Renewal of visa: 17000 baht then you'll be hooked. the special deal with the special io for the very special price won't give you a bankbook in your name showing funds in the account 800/5 and 400/12. @thaivisacentre is only charging 14,000 for extensions. I just got mine.. Last year my "Lawyer" charged me 35,000 THB to do this! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackThompson Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 7:25 AM, onera1961 said: Only for sexpats to put a break on their illegal activites without paying tributes. The foreigners funding the vast majority of that activity (most is Thai on Thai, so speaking of the other fraction) are the "short term visiting" tourists Immigration treats well. Those masses on Walking-Street aren't long-term foreigners. By contrast, most of us here long-term have long-term relationships - and it is folks like us that Immigration seeks to extort or boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, JackThompson said: By contrast, most of us here long-term have long-term relationships - and it is folks like us that Immigration seeks to extort or boot. Most of us have in reality become bored with that Walking St scene and are at best very occasional visitors. Beyond our budgets too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problemfarang Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Well in Pattaya 30K thai baht... you can get whatever visa you want. my friend doing this like for years now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) "apparently someone at immigration sold a list of emails. again." - Hands up here who's stupid enough to give immigration their email address and/or social networking details. I sure am not!! On any extension form always leave it blank or write N/A. Easy.... Edited September 28, 2019 by bbi1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myran Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 This is quite interesting. I've actually used an email I created specifically for immigration that I've used at my current immigration office for the last couple of years. If I receive any emails to it, I know where they've gotten my email address from and I'll make sure to raise as much ruckus as I can. No emails yet, though. Maybe other people could do the same thing. Just make sure to create a new email address if you change immigration office, so that you know which one leaked it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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