webfact Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Opposition to lodge petition against PM Prayut BANGKOK (NNT) - The government and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Chuan Leekpai, have confirmed that they do not have issues with the opposition’s demand for an investigation into the alleged violation of ethical standards by the Prime Minister and Defense Minister, Gen. Prayut Chan-o-cha, in failing to recite his oath of office fully. The opposition was advised that it could proceed with the legal process. The House Speaker said the opposition can lodge such a petition with the Office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) at any time, even though the first parliamentary session had already ended. Mr. Chuan noted that he will look into the legal elements of the petition. He said the rulings of the Constitutional Court constitute a binding precedent. However, this particular case is an order, not a ruling, and a postscript added to the order, must also be acknowledged. The Deputy Prime Minister, Prof. Dr. Wissanu Krea-ngam, said on Friday, that the issue is up to the opposition to ponder, and he has yet to assess whether a no-confidence motion against the Prime Minister will take place. He said the government has performed its duties according to the law during the general debate. If the opposition still has questions, it has to proceed with the legal process. -- © Copyright NNT 2019-09-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, webfact said: Opposition to lodge petition against PM Prayut Oooooooo! Go for the jugular! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The Opposition are proving themselves to be less than useless. Thailand's governance is no different to when the junta bully boys were running the show and Prayut just did as he pleased. The Opposition might just as well stay in bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 So the opposition are going to lodge a petition against Prayut, why? Total waste of time, by a total waste of space opposition. They can huff and puff as much as they want, will not change anything, Prayut will carry on regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, colinneil said: So the opposition are going to lodge a petition against Prayut, why? Total waste of time, by a total waste of space opposition. They can huff and puff as much as they want, will not change anything, Prayut will carry on regardless. It is the job of an opposition to hold the Govt to account and to point out their abuse of power. It'll be a long haul but hopefully the electorate will get to see how much this Govt holds them in contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The opposition is acting just like a Kangaroo court now. They should try to prove internationally and by other means that the judges in the constitutional court are actually in contempt by malfeasance by judgments. Otherwise forget it if there really is no case or legs to stand on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Any laws are irrelevant. The PM has the most important and only important endorsement. That means nothing is going to change. Not sure why Thais in the opposition are pretending they will have any impact at all. The whole thing is an opera. The PM is here to stay for as long as he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Proroguing in vogueing if he gets stuck ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, colinneil said: So the opposition are going to lodge a petition against Prayut, why? Total waste of time, by a total waste of space opposition. They can huff and puff as much as they want, will not change anything, Prayut will carry on regardless. MONTHS AGO, it was quoted on here, with a picture Prayut saying "he can do what he wants" do you remember.....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I would assume a motion of no confidence would be voted on by the lower house. It would make no difference whether he won or lost as the senate would vote on the new PM so he'd be back in power regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, madmitch said: I would assume a motion of no confidence would be voted on by the lower house. It would make no difference whether he won or lost as the senate would vote on the new PM so he'd be back in power regardless. sounds very complicated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 And some people were thinking that after the 'election' this country would begin to move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, BobbyL said: And some people were thinking that after the 'election' this country would begin to move forward. NO CHANCE....too much corruption... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 What exactly was wrong with the oath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, faraday said: What exactly was wrong with the oath? Omission to uphold the constitution the constitution that he and his mates wrote.The democracy part of the oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Cadbury said: The Opposition are proving themselves to be less than useless. Thailand's governance is no different to when the junta bully boys were running the show and Prayut just did as he pleased. The Opposition might just as well stay in bed. I would disagree - the government has done everything possible to castrate the (massive) opposition but despite this the message is clearly reaching the Thai people. My wife and her friends and social media is full of accounts of the opposition standing up to the entrenched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Cadbury said: The Opposition are proving themselves to be less than useless. On the other hand not alone 5 hours ago, webfact said: The government and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Chuan Leekpai, have confirmed that they do not have issues with the opposition’s demand for an investigation into the alleged violation of ethical standards by the Prime Minister and Defense Minister, Gen. Prayut Chan-o-cha, in failing to recite his oath of office fully. The Opposition has substantial non-opposition support to proceed. I'd say rather than the Opposition proving itself to be useless, it is proving itself to be a major political force to hold Prayut accountable for his governance that may border on abuse of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Cadbury said: The Opposition are proving themselves to be less than useless. Thailand's governance is no different to when the junta bully boys were running the show and Prayut just did as he pleased. The Opposition might just as well stay in bed. Its been the same when the PTP was in power, you can't blame the opposition. Once those in power are in power they don't listen to anyone else and do whatever they want. The opposition just does not have enough power in Thailand, those in power always have the upper hand. Remember how YL protected the corruption in the rice program. The opposition could not do a thing about it. Only the courts in the end punished the corrupt. But during her power there was little the opposition could do (she did her own investigation kept total control). Same applies now those in power can do as they please and maybe maybe maybe will face the courts (i know probably wont happen as they are protected). I just don't understand what you expect of the opposition, they have to work with the tools they have and they don't have the power needed. In my country the opposition can't do much either when they don't have enough seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said: I would disagree - the government has done everything possible to castrate the (massive) opposition but despite this the message is clearly reaching the Thai people. My wife and her friends and social media is full of accounts of the opposition standing up to the entrenched. What you say is undoubtedly correct however in the meantime the PM Prayut continues on in his usual arrogant way and treats the opposition and those who voted for them with contempt. It's as if the junta were still in power. I am sure the Opposition could do more to bring him to heel but they seem to lack the political capability. All we seem to hear about is the recital of the oath. Surely there must be countless other issues they could add to the fire underneath him. Like corruption, or is that politically out of bounds in case they might inflict self harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartiniMan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 So is the nightmare over soon? Really??? Can we have a normal business again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 hours ago, colinneil said: So the opposition are going to lodge a petition against Prayut, why? Total waste of time, by a total waste of space opposition. They can huff and puff as much as they want, will not change anything, Prayut will carry on regardless. They should try! If they don't they just reinforce his 'strength' to continue his bully unethical tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Cadbury said: The Opposition are proving themselves to be less than useless. Thailand's governance is no different to when the junta bully boys were running the show and Prayut just did as he pleased. The Opposition might just as well stay in bed. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Cadbury said: What you say is undoubtedly correct however in the meantime the PM Prayut continues on in his usual arrogant way and treats the opposition and those who voted for them with contempt. It's as if the junta were still in power. I am sure the Opposition could do more to bring him to heel but they seem to lack the political capability. All we seem to hear about is the recital of the oath. Surely there must be countless other issues they could add to the fire underneath him. Like corruption, or is that politically out of bounds in case they might inflict self harm. Agreed - Likely two factors at play. 1) there will be more than a few sticky hands in the opposition with mud under them. Im sure the PM has files on them all. 2) The Junta is still in complete power - with the number of seats they automatically get, any election is close to a joke. PM knows it and so does everyone else so all they can do is continue to voice protest or find themselves reeducated or investigated ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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