webfact Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 British travel firm Thomas Cook collapses, stranding hundreds of thousands FILE PHOTO: The Thomas Cook logo is seen in this illustration photo January 22, 2018. REUTERS/Thomas White/Illustration/File Photo LONDON, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Thomas Cook, the world’s oldest travel firm, collapsed on Monday, stranding hundreds of thousands of holidaymakers around the globe and sparking the largest peacetime repatriation effort in British history. The UK’s Civil Aviation Authority said Thomas Cook had now ceased trading and the regulator would work with the government to bring the more than 150,000 British customers home over the next two weeks. “Due to the significant scale of the situation, some disruption is inevitable, but the Civil Aviation Authority will endeavour to get people home as close as possible to their planned dates,” it said in a statement in the early hours of Monday. “Thomas Cook has ceased trading so all Thomas Cook flights are now cancelled,” it said. The firm runs hotels, resorts and airlines for 19 million people a year in 16 countries. It currently has 600,000 people abroad, forcing governments and insurance companies to coordinate a huge rescue operation. Pictures posted on social media showed Thomas Cook planes being diverted away from the normal stands, and being deserted as soon as they had landed. (Reporting by Kate Holton; editing by Guy Faulconbridge) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-23 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Bourne Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Sounds like they haven't even been paying the airport gate fees. Obviously bankrupt. There is no Chapter 11 bailout corruption in UK so TC looks toast. Will there be an investigation into the incompetence of high paid corporate boofheads who ran TC into the ground.? Unlikely. Airline passengers these days are nothing but cheap cattle to be herded in massive sheds. Glad my travelling days are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Good. Robbing bar stewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Government and UK CAA launches largest repatriation in peacetime history after collapse of Thomas Cook Thomas Cook: information for customers, employees, creditors and shareholders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 What a cook up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Old news... Since Friday they have been trying to get the government to bail them out to the tune of £200M, hotels have been turfing guests out of their rooms or even holding them hostage until the pay for their rooms. Probably with all assets leased or mortgaged TC has nothing left as security against any loans, thankfully our government did not bail out TC, wise move as all they would be doing would be kicking this problem into touch, package tours are history. Unfortunately the package tour companies pay for rooms a long time after the guests vacate them so hotels may be owed a lot of money and just taken a big hit on future bookings, so understandably hotel owners will try to get guests to pay again. Down side of this will be hotel owners trying to get tour companies to pay up front or at least reduce the waiting time for payment which will put pressure on other tour operators. And Brexit will have been a very heavy straw on the camels back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Seems like a big deal to me. Is this a brexit thing? Thomas cook thats a pretty big fish. Maybe real sign of the times to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I’ve never heard of them, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, lust said: I’ve never heard of them, lol. Where you from? Obviously not ???? as Thomas Cook was the inventor of the package tours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Basil B said: Unfortunately the package tour companies pay for rooms a long time after the guests vacate them so hotels may be owed a lot of money and just taken a big hit on future bookings, so understandably hotel owners will try to get guests to pay again. Letting big companies pay in arrears is always a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Basil B said: .... And Brexit will have been a very heavy straw on the camels back... Diesel ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Letting big companies pay in arrears is always a bad idea. And once again a big company has been trading for a long time while insolvent, and what action will be taken against the Directors? beats me why a company that receives up front payments needs 90 or more days to pay its bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Basil B said: beats me why a company that receives up front payments needs 90 or more days to pay its bills... Simple - because they can, they "bully" small businesses to accept their terms and conditions, that's the way big business operates these days, accountants and banks maximising their profit without a care for small business & they think it is a privilege to allow them to do business with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Basil B said: Where you from? Obviously not ???? as Thomas Cook was the inventor of the package tours... I’m from Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 hours ago, lust said: I’m from Canada. Wheres that ? Never heard of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, sanemax said: Wheres that ? Never heard of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, sanemax said: Wheres that ? Never heard of it Not surprised, really. Just a small country, easy to miss with it be tucked away down there and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusExMachinaBKK Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Wheres that ? Never heard of it Can someone please explain what's funny about this comment? Many people used the "funny" emoticon, but apparently I'm too stupid to get the joke. Please, enlighten me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Wheres that ? Never heard of it It is that big country sitting on top of the USA, full of bears, lots of snow and ice in the winter and a fabulous waterfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Nobody has mentioned their traveller's cheques. I can smell another bank grab in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 BBC reported they were still taking bookings just last night. Cheeky, eh wot? Maybe a new take on old term: "I've been Cooked!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOAX Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, DeusExMachinaBKK said: Can someone please explain what's funny about this comment? Many people used the "funny" emoticon, but apparently I'm too stupid to get the joke. Please, enlighten me! Sure. Thomas Cook is comparable to Canada in the world of traveling. It was the inventor of package traveling, it was the oldest traveling company in existence, even older than Canada. It had its own Airline as well as a whole bunch of travel related subsidiaries and franchises in over 180 countries, including over 200 hotels, resorts, tour operators, travel agencies, insurance, finance, rentals and more. They also operated in Canada. It even had its own airline in Canada, Thomas Cook Airlines Canada. Saying you haven't heard of Thomas Cook is like a Frenchman saying he haven't heard of Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, billd766 said: It is that big country sitting on top of the USA, full of bears, lots of snow and ice in the winter and a fabulous waterfall. But they couldn't afford a whole waterfall, so came up with some sort of sharing arrangement with their neighbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashmodha Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 By law all Directors are answerable and can be prosecuted if found negligent ...a sad day indeed, I have been through this back in 1974! Sounds like they haven't even been paying the airport gate fees. Obviously bankrupt. There is no Chapter 11 bailout corruption in UK so TC looks toast. Will there be an investigation into the incompetence of high paid corporate boofheads who ran TC into the ground.? Unlikely. Airline passengers these days are nothing but cheap cattle to be herded in massive sheds. Glad my travelling days are done.Please excuse spelling mistakes/Grammar and Misunderstandings!Best Hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashmodha Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 By law all Directors are answerable and can be prosecuted if found negligent ...a sad day indeed, I have been through this back in 1974! Please excuse spelling mistakes/Grammar and Misunderstandings!Best Hashhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/22/thomas-cook-bosses-received-20m-bonuses-last-5-years-company/amp/#click=https://t.co/4nEZQ8xyzFPlease excuse spelling mistakes/Grammar and Misunderstandings!Best Hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, sanemax said: Wheres that ? Never heard of it Canada, never heard of it ? It,s the part of U.K. where we send the people we don,t want to be staying in our fair isles ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashmodha Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Personally I blame the accountants....who ought to be prosecuted...https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/22/thomas-cook-bosses-received-20m-bonuses-last-5-years-company/amp/#click=https://t.co/4nEZQ8xyzFPlease excuse spelling mistakes/Grammar and Misunderstandings!Best HashPlease excuse spelling mistakes/Grammar and Misunderstandings!Best Hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardflory Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, lust said: I’m from Canada. I am American, I have heard of them all my travel life, you must not travel very much. Their are / were a British Icon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forethat Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Basil B said: Old news... Since Friday they have been trying to get the government to bail them out to the tune of £200M, hotels have been turfing guests out of their rooms or even holding them hostage until the pay for their rooms. Probably with all assets leased or mortgaged TC has nothing left as security against any loans, thankfully our government did not bail out TC, wise move as all they would be doing would be kicking this problem into touch, package tours are history. Unfortunately the package tour companies pay for rooms a long time after the guests vacate them so hotels may be owed a lot of money and just taken a big hit on future bookings, so understandably hotel owners will try to get guests to pay again. Down side of this will be hotel owners trying to get tour companies to pay up front or at least reduce the waiting time for payment which will put pressure on other tour operators. And Brexit will have been a very heavy straw on the camels back... Not surprised to see someone attempt to blame Brexit. TC executives probably can't believe their luck when Brexit can be made the scapegoat... I looked through a couple of TC balance sheets. For instance, in 2015 TC reported an absolute mountain of debts. Even more interesting, the annual report concludes that they failed to increase their impact on the Internet market. My conclusion is: Thomas Cook built a little empire, made available by massive credits. And along came the likes of hotels.com, skyscanner.com, momondo.com and a myriad of others. And now they're in the red. My point is that even though they made a small profit in 2015, they didn't accumulate all that debt post Brexit referendum. They should have picked better analysts 10-15 years ago. Blaming Brexit seems a bit opportune, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 What went wrong at Thomas Cook In May this year, Thomas Cook Group announced an astonishing £1.5 billion winter loss, £1.1 billion of which was due to an impairment charge relating to that merger with MyTravel https://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?news_id=2039355 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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