DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mavideol said: that means he has to call PM's back and make an attitude adjustment, oh boy it will not be easy No. The ruling categorically states that parliament is not prorogued. Technically it could sit today. It's the duty of the Speaker to declare parliament open. He has said he wants it open as soon as possible. Likely to be sitting tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, david555 said: Glad to see you are still in good doing ????,by this present dreadful day for you ,11 judges unanimous agreed that you have a illegal doing prime minister . But I must say this verdict proves that not all Brits lost their mind , your country start becomes now recognizable again as it was before and respected , ….like the saying "1 rotten apple (or a few) does not make the whole basket rotten ." Shutting down a parliament is a not a acceptable action ….in any democratic country And this my opinion has nothing to do with Brexit Neither is ignoring 17.4 million of the people that voted to leave the EU. Shutting down a parliament is a not a acceptable action ….in any democratic country And this my opinion has nothing to do with Brexit The UK democratic, don't make me laugh, democracy is only relevant to remainers when it goes their way. The referendum was democratic wasn't it, so much for the establishment respecting democracy. When we have the General Election, that will sort the chaff from the wheat, all the bad apples will be voted out then and replaced with MPs that have a backbone, then the smugness of the remainers will be replaced by humbleness.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 28 minutes ago, david555 said: Now the U.K. need to make urgent work to make a WRITTEN constitution like"normal country's over the whole world has" ….so avoid such situations as present …..Even Thailand has one …..say 'it all The opposite is true. The UK has an unwritten constitution, todays ruling has proved that that unwritten constitution is working well. It has strenghtened the unwritten constitution, not weakened it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, vogie said: Neither is ignoring 17.4 million of the people that voted to leave the EU. Shutting down a parliament is a not a acceptable action ….in any democratic country And this my opinion has nothing to do with Brexit The UK democratic, don't make me laugh, democracy is only relevant to remainers when it goes their way. The referendum was democratic wasn't it, so much for the establishment respecting democracy. When we have the General Election, that will sort the chaff from the wheat, all the bad apples will be voted out then and replaced with MPs that have a backbone, then the smugness of the remainers will be replaced by humbleness.???? As much as you (or Boris, or Cummings or anyone really) want Brexit, you must realise that you have to achieve it legally. Good to see the UK's checks and balances standing up to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: No. The ruling categorically states that parliament is not prorogued. Technically it could sit today. It's the duty of the Speaker to declare parliament open. He has said he wants it open as soon as possible. Likely to be sitting tomorrow morning. great, can't wait to see BJ's face while facing the PM's ... his stuttering/mumbling will prevail when he's faced with tough questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, vogie said: The referendum was democratic wasn't it, so much for the establishment respecting democracy. No it wasn't it was advisory. We have a parliamentary democracy in the UK. That democracy has been upheld today. Johnson must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, vogie said: Neither is ignoring 17.4 million of the people that voted to leave the EU. Shutting down a parliament is a not a acceptable action ….in any democratic country And this my opinion has nothing to do with Brexit The UK democratic, don't make me laugh, democracy is only relevant to remainers when it goes their way. The referendum was democratic wasn't it, so much for the establishment respecting democracy. When we have the General Election, that will sort the chaff from the wheat, all the bad apples will be voted out then and replaced with MPs that have a backbone, then the smugness of the remainers will be replaced by humbleness.???? I get strongly the feeling you are talking to your mirror image …..so the ruling means nothing to you …..11 supreme judges does not impress Vogie ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The speaker, John Bercow, has just announced that parliament will resume business tomorrow morning at 11.30am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: The opposite is true. The UK has an unwritten constitution, todays ruling has proved that that unwritten constitution is working well. It has strenghtened the unwritten constitution, not weakened it. Indeed, today's ruling has just become part of that unwritten constitution - it has the advantage of adapting to changing times dynamically, without new laws having to be enacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, david555 said: I get strongly the feeling you are talking to your mirror image …..so the ruling means nothing to you …..11 supreme judges does not impress Vogie ... Always go with your feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: The opposite is true. The UK has an unwritten constitution, todays ruling has proved that that unwritten constitution is working well. It has strenghtened the unwritten constitution, not weakened it. Yes but it let many impressions possible , a written one works much quicker to bring clarity,.... see how much efforts I costed now ...as you see a politic opportunist as now use it for his own agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 By Sky news Bercow : Tomorrow HOC called to reassemble , not reopen as it was never legal closed (his formulating ...) , so business as usual ....but no PM questions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, david555 said: Yes but it let many impressions possible , a written one works much quicker to bring clarity,.... see how much efforts I costed now ...as you see a politic opportunist as now use it for his own agenda Hasn't worked well for the US has it? 2nd amendment? The advantage of the UK constitution is that it's far more flexible. It's relatively easy to change it and adapt it to changing times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Hasn't worked well for the US has it? 2nd amendment? The advantage of the UK constitution is that it's far more flexible. It's relatively easy to change it and adapt it to changing times. All you have written works for both sides , that is why he could do what he has done …..and any who take him as his example ...looks the efforts it has cost....all that flexibility from Boris …. next one Farage flexibility and avoiding Boris mistakes ... You are right I can also fly from London to Rome passing the south pole ….(wink …) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, david555 said: All you have written works for both sides , that is why he could do what he has done …..and any who take him as his example ...looks the efforts it has cost....all that flexibility from Boris …. next one Farage flexibility and avoiding Boris mistakes ... You are right I can also fly from London passing the south pole ….(wink …) No, that's why he couldn't do what he tried todo. Our constitution relys on the laws of the land and parliamentary protocol, he changed neither an droyally got his bottom spanked. Also he lied to the Queen and dragged her into this mess. A real no no. It's within her remit to chop his head off. I do hope that the execution is televised live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: No, that's why he couldn't do what he tried todo. Our constitution relys on the laws of the land and parliamentary protocol, he changed neither an droyally got his bottom spanked. Also he lied to the Queen and dragged her into this mess. A real no no. It's within her remit to chop his head off. I do hope that the execution is televised live. Your politicians will make work for a written one as already first calls for that , as now they see flexabillity as you called it worked , but what about the next more clever one …... Btw why not only from now spoken contracts on bank matters rent matters , work condition etc …? But hey praise yourself lucky today , and as your U.K. it is your country & choice , I more appreciate our European / individual country's ones ….. Thanks to Napoleon … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, david555 said: Your politicians will make work for a written one as already first calls for that , as now they see flexabillity as you called it worked Lib Dems who have been calling for Proportional representation for decades. Neither PR or a written constitution will happen. Quite happy with what we've got thanks. Works for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 It is looking like Johnson is going for an immediate 2nd proroguation. The neck on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Lib Dems who have been calling for Proportional representation for decades. Neither PR or a written constitution will happen. Quite happy with what we've got thanks. Works for us. just saw interview Boris on Al Jazeera , he does not seem to change course …. that's what you get with flexabilliyty , still on course for 31 leaving and a queen speech prorogation Up to your Queen now what to decide I would say ….. looks deeper and deeper a constitutional crises deepening …. I wonder how the E.U . go see and react on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 No. The ruling categorically states that parliament is not prorogued. Technically it could sit today. It's the duty of the Speaker to declare parliament open. He has said he wants it open as soon as possible. Likely to be sitting tomorrow morning.Labour won’t be there, they are still in Brighton tearing themselves apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Loiner said: Labour won’t be there, they are still in Brighton tearing themselves apart. Nope, the news of Johnson tearing himself apart united them, happy families now. They've wrapped up and will all be in parliament at 11.30 tomorrow morning, champing at the bit and desparate to get their teeth into Johnson and his cohorts. I think the supine one is going to get a ripping too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Nope, the news of Johnson tearing himself apart united them, happy families now. They've wrapped up and will all be in parliament at 11.30 tomorrow morning, champing at the bit and desparate to get their teeth into Johnson and his cohorts. I think the supine one is going to get a ripping too.Give over ‘ker, they’ve got their holidays booked. It’s Conservatives next week too. If they had anything substantial for Boris they would have used it already. They can’t push too hard or they could end up with a general election. LAB would be in trouble then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 He looks very unsecure here on this picture ….. not his normal Boris face more like embarrassed…...why ????? ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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