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29 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

What natural warming trend would that be? And what is causing it?

 

As for seeing no change in temperature? That's just flat out false. Have you heard the tundra is melting? Depending on what portion of the tundra in question, that means it's warmer there than it's been for anywhere from 11,000 to 33,000 years.

A massive study in Nature just concluded shows that for the first time in at least the last 2000 years, the present is unique in that virtually the entire surface of the planet is getting warmer at the same time. So is that natural and what went on before unnatural?

Warmer now than 11,000 to 33,000 years ago, could that be because those are the exact dates of the last ice age

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You go girl hold their feet to the fire make them face what’s happening so all of us can start making responsible changes and grow into a more sustainable world I’m proud of you kiddo!

And first of all make her shut up. 

Small point that needs clarifying. It was Greta's parents that filled her head with confusion, hate and panic, ergo they "stole her dreams". Textbook child abuse really. When she gets bored of this cl

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18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Another unattributed graphic.

 

Here’s a clue, something written on a graphic is part of the graphic, it is not confirmation of the source.

 

So please, provide a link to where you got this graphic.

I got it from a site that would give you cooties, so here is the same info in a slightly different format right from NASA. Link

I couldn't get the graph to link directly but you can find it on the page linked under the second drop down at the bottom.

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3 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The temperature has been rising since the last cooling trend ended in 1910. But the amount of CO2 we have been putting in the air has gone up 40% in the last 50 years.

We had the same pace of warming 1910 to 1940 that we had 1970 to 2000. But the CO2 was much greater in the second 30 year period. And we even had cooling and then a flat line after WW2 despite the onset of major industrialization. There is no correlation to be seen between a rise in CO2 and the rise in temperature that cannot be explained as a natural fluctuation. The CO2 increased massively while the temperature rose at the very slow pace of .08 degrees in 100 years. Not at all anomalous in the longer temperature record. The impact of CO2 is proving to be insignificant. Our climate continues to be incredibly stable.

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That warming trend was a reversion to mean.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Another unattributed graphic.

 

Here’s a clue, something written on a graphic is part of the graphic, it is not confirmation of the source.

 

So please, provide a link to where you got this graphic.

I'm sure the graph is genuine. But you'll note it ends on 2014. This lets us know that it came via a denialist website because the last 4+ years make the situation look a lot worse. Here's the latest update:

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Just now, bristolboy said:

That warming trend was a reversion to mean.

 

I'm sure the graph is genuine. But you'll note it ends on 2014. This lets us know that it came via a denialist website because the last 4+ years make the situation look a lot worse. Here's the latest update:

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It shows cooling in the last 4 years

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1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Sometimes it's just the wrong link. As in post #1776.

It's not the wrong link. 

How hard can it be? Here's a screenshot. Pay particular attention to the heading: "Facts" and "Global Temperature". I have used exactly the same data as NASA. The data is available on that page as well.

 

I'm sorry but I simply have to ask: are you trolling or are you actually serious?

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, canuckamuck said:

It shows cooling in the last 4 years

It sure does.  Relative to 2016.. Just like it showed cooling for several years after 1998. And you know why that is? Because 1998 and 2016 were years of major el ninos. But all of the last 6 years have been warmer than the el nino year of 1998. With only 2016's high temperature due to the el nino factor. In fact out of the 10 hottest years on record, 1998 now stands at #10. It's likely that by the end of 2019 it will be #11.

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9 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

It shows cooling in the last 4 years

What about the last 15 seconds? I love it when people zoom into timeframes to find something they like. Provides lovely trading opportunities to screw them over.

 

Point being, when you pan and zoom enough, you'll always find some spot to fit your hypothesis.

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5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It sure does.  Relative to 2016.. Just like it showed cooling for several years after 1998. And you know why that is? Because 1998 and 2016 were years of major el ninos. But all of the last 6 years have been warmer than the el nino year of 1998. With only 2016's high temperature due to the el nino factor. In fact out of the 10 hottest years on record, 1998 now stands at #10. It's likely that by the end of 2019 it will be #11.

If I would have included the cooling my point would have been even stronger

It's amazing that after 12,000 years of recovering from an ice age that we are getting record temperatures eh?

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2 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

If I would have included the cooling my point would have been even stronger

 

What don't you understand about El Ninos? Let me guess. That they elevate global average temperatures for a year or so.. But multihear trends not so much.

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1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

What don't you understand about El Ninos? Let me guess. That they elevate global average temperatures for a year or so.. But multihear trends not so much.

Your the one that made a point of me not including the last 5 years. Without those 5 years I have a weaker argument. You should have left it alone.

Anyhow I was talking about two 30 year periods primarily

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20 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I got it from a site that would give you cooties, so here is the same info in a slightly different format right from NASA. Link

I couldn't get the graph to link directly but you can find it on the page linked under the second drop down at the bottom.

140-years.jpg

The reason I ask for a link to the graphic you posted is to confirm where you got it.

 

Don’t worry about the source giving me ‘cooties’, just be open about where you are getting the information you post.

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4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The reason I ask for a link to the graphic you posted is to confirm where you got it.

 

Don’t worry about the source giving me ‘cooties’, just be open about where you are getting the information you post.

It says on the graph...

 

*facepalm*

 

 

 

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