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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I guess I see why some people feel she is creepy. I see her as a special messenger that has a brain that is wired differently. I think her unusual affect is a big part of her power.

She doesn't have any "power". She's not a good speaker. She doesn't understand climatology or physical chemistry. She's just a girl who happened to be in the right place when IPCC needed to promote the UN Green Fund. What we're witnessing, is a well organised machinery that invents a tax that will fill up even more treasure chests than they already have. And people are buying into it.

 

This isn't a new phenomenon - the Catholic church did the same thing when they threatened people with the doctrine of hell. Hell probably sounded pretty bad, but guess what, "tell me all your dark secrets or pay money to the church and all your sins will be forgiven". Money and power. And people lined up to buy into the scheme.

 

In essence, the concept this time is pretty much the same: threaten people with armageddon unless they pay a newly invented tax. And they have found the perfect tool for reaching out to the masses. A little prophet. A prophet that'll sell the concept. 

 

I think Greta is brilliant. She's committed. Brave. And smart. I don't agree with her message, though. And the power isn't hers. The power belongs to the people promoting her as a prophet in order to gain money and power. The indoctrinating media machine. For reasons I don't understand, people want to believe her message - that the world is about to end - and are prepared to brand anyone who questions the whole idea of ACC as a "climate denier". Makes me wonder how long before they begin to practice the art of 'Dunking' to identify the ones who don't buy into the scam...

 

The climate change movement scares the he** out of me, because it shows how freaking stupid people can be.

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1 hour ago, Caldera said:

I think all the attention she's been getting has done her more harm than good. I'm not talking about her cause, I'm talking about her personality and sense of entitlement. "Stolen my dreams", my ass.

 

1 hour ago, Chivas said:

Am afraid as soon as she started whining in that voice along with fake tears and "how dare you" the remote control was activated. Turned off more people then it encouraged.

 

44 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

I find her incredibly creepy. 

Sadly she's being used as a puppet to push the narrative

 

37 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

She'd be great in a female version of The Omen

You saddos do know she has Asperger syndrome, a form of autism, and selective mutism?

Haters gotta hate.

Any of you saddos ever stood up as a teenager and read a speech in front of important adults?

Let alone at the UN?

I find all your comments above sickening, disgusting and shameful.

Not only haters gotta hate, but big hard strong men gotta bully a 16 y/o kid on the internet with pathetic WEAK comments.

Bet'ya feel so proud hey?

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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

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24 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Oh come on Jing,she comes over as being deranged,i think its disgusting of her parents to let her be used like this ,if she was my daughter i would not allow it in a million years, also at 16 she knows f all,i remember having a picture of Che Guevara on my wall ,shouting at the posh in their cars " wait until the revolution" and standing outdide the American Embassy screaming " hey hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today" joined in all the protests in London in the 60s . Then i got a life , a wife a mortgage,a daughter, and a job and put the stupidity of youth behind me.


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 Deranged hey?

Nothing to do with being highly intelligent, having autism and believing in something hey?

 

25 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Then i got a life , a wife a mortgage,a daughter, and a job and put the stupidity of youth behind me.

More fool you.

So only 1 daughter, not the 2.3 kids everyone else had?

Was the house 2 or 3 beds, like everyone else had?

Mortgage 20 or 25 years, like everyone else's?

Job 9-5, like everyone else's?

But i bet your car was bigger than your neighbor's hey?

What a rebel....

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10 minutes ago, Forethat said:

She doesn't have any "power". She's not a good speaker. She doesn't understand climatology or physical chemistry. She's just a girl who happened to be in the right place when IPCC needed to promote the UN Green Fund. What we're witnessing, is a well organised machinery that invents a tax that will fill up even more treasure chests than they already have. And people are buying into it.

 

This isn't a new phenomenon - the Catholic church did the same thing when they threatened people with the doctrine of hell. Hell probably sounded pretty bad, but guess what, "tell me all your dark secrets or pay money to the church and all your sins will be forgiven". Money and power. And people lined up to buy into the scheme.

 

In essence, the concept this time is pretty much the same: threaten people with armageddon unless they pay a newly invented tax. And they have found the perfect tool for reaching out to the masses. A little prophet. A prophet that'll sell the concept. 

 

I think Greta is brilliant. She's committed. Brave. And smart. I don't agree with her message, though. And the power isn't hers. The power belongs to the people promoting her as a prophet in order to gain money and power. The indoctrinating media machine. For reasons I don't understand, people want to believe her message - that the world is about to end - and are prepared to brand anyone who questions the whole idea of ACC as a "climate denier". Makes me wonder how long before they begin to practice the art of 'Dunking' to identify the ones who don't buy into the scam...

 

The climate change movement scares the he** out of me, because it shows how freaking stupid people can be.

She has a heck of a lot more power on this issue than any other teenager on the planet. 

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9 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

 

 

 

You saddos do know she has Asperger syndrome, a form of autism, and selective mutism?

Haters gotta hate.

Any of you saddos ever stood up as a teenager and read a speech in front of important adults?

Let alone at the UN?

I find all your comments above sickening, disgusting and shameful.

Not only haters gotta hate, but big hard strong men gotta bully a 16 y/o kid on the internet with pathetic WEAK comments.

Bet'ya feel so proud hey?

It really has nothing to do with the girl. Most of the posters are simply reacting to her message, which they don't like. And yes, that results in attacking the messenger.

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9 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

 

 

 

You saddos do know she has Asperger syndrome, a form of autism, and selective mutism?

Haters gotta hate.

Any of you saddos ever stood up as a teenager and read a speech in front of important adults?

Let alone at the UN?

I find all your comments above sickening, disgusting and shameful.

Not only haters gotta hate, but big hard strong men gotta bully a 16 y/o kid on the internet with pathetic WEAK comments.

Bet'ya feel so proud hey?

What has having autism got to do with anything?

 

She's being used by powerful people & will unfortunately end up as a basket case

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

She has a heck of a lot more power on this issue than any other teenager on the planet. 

You're wrong. The power is not hers. It has been given to her. It can be taken away by the snap of a finger.

 

Follow the money. 

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Global Warming happened and the temp uptick ceased about 12-15 years ago...repeating the natural cycle of eons of eons of eons before. Climate Change is probably happening as it has happened in long long solar cycles since Earth produced an atmosphere. Global Warming and Climate Change cannot be altered by human intervention because these phenomenon are not human caused. Also carbon dioxide is not a toxic gas in its natural occurrence.

In fact the world as we know it wouldn't exist without carbon dioxide. 

Most likely Climate Change comes in cycles with Global Cooling and Global Warming due to intertwining of the Sun's cycles of expansion and contraction coupled with sun spots and cyclic production of cosmic rays all in conjunction with wobbles of the Earth's spin on its axis with chance pertubations of Earth's orbit around the Sun and possibly even involves the travels of our solar system through the Milky Way. All involved in enormously complicated cyclic cosmic events. 

And of courde, these are all Natural Occurrences that has produced the gigantic events such as the various ice ages - you know - the temp is mild - then cool - then cold - then damn cold - then ice covers half the Earth >>> Then it starts to warm slightly - then a little warmer - then warmer yet still ... ice melts - glaciers retreat and mild temperatures arise for more eons of eons... human habital westher until the next grand cycle. 

Natural Occurrences are what's at play... done many times in Earth's long history. But Natural Occurence Deniers "NODs" will not admit it because such truths would go against their political agenda of massive global redistribution of wealth - leveling of living standards around the world to that of just above 3rd World, huge reduction in Earth's human population and most of all impising Global Government ushering in Authoritarian Socialism on a scale and degree never before witnessed. 

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12 minutes ago, JDGRUEN said:

Global Warming happened and the temp uptick ceased about 12-15 years ago...repeating the natural cycle of eons of eons of eons before. Climate Change is probably happening as it has happened in long long solar cycles since Earth produced an atmosphere. Global Warming and Climate Change cannot be altered by human intervention because these phenomenon are not human caused. Also carbon dioxide is not a toxic gas in its natural occurrence.

In fact the world as we know it wouldn't exist without carbon dioxide. 

Most likely Climate Change comes in cycles with Global Cooling and Global Warming due to intertwining of the Sun's cycles of expansion and contraction coupled with sun spots and cyclic production of cosmic rays all in conjunction with wobbles of the Earth's spin on its axis with chance pertubations of Earth's orbit around the Sun and possibly even involves the travels of our solar system through the Milky Way. All involved in enormously complicated cyclic cosmic events. 

And of courde, these are all Natural Occurrences that has produced the gigantic events such as the various ice ages - you know - the temp is mild - then cool - then cold - then damn cold - then ice covers half the Earth >>> Then it starts to warm slightly - then a little warmer - then warmer yet still ... ice melts - glaciers retreat and mild temperatures arise for more eons of eons... human habital westher until the next grand cycle. 

Natural Occurrences are what's at play... done many times in Earth's long history. But Natural Occurence Deniers "NODs" will not admit it because such truths would go against their political agenda of massive global redistribution of wealth - leveling of living standards around the world to that of just above 3rd World, huge reduction in Earth's human population and most of all impising Global Government ushering in Authoritarian Socialism on a scale and degree never before witnessed. 

Another person with zero understanding of the laws of thermodynamics. Or the use of spellcheckers.

Carbon dioxide is toxic to coral. Too much of it in the oceans, and entire food chains are disrupted due to acidity

Unbridled capitalism is not doing the world any favours either.

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34 minutes ago, Forethat said:

In essence, the concept this time is pretty much the same: threaten people with armageddon unless they pay a newly invented tax. And they have found the perfect tool for reaching out to the masses. A little prophet. A prophet that'll sell the concept. 

Hey, that's pretty good. Thumbs up!

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Why not prove your conspiracy theory first? I won't hold my breath. 

What "conspiracy theory" are you referring to? That I think Greta is brilliant, committed and smart. Or that UN are introducing carbon credits to reduce ACC?

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22 minutes ago, Syduan said:

Good actor, I'll give her that. 

From The Club of Rome's paper "The Limits To Growth"

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then is humanity itself. We believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or one invented for the purpose.” – Club of Rome, 1971.

 

Incorrect quote and disgusting meme.

 

The real text is " "In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together. But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself." "

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7 minutes ago, Forethat said:

Another example of ad hominem fallacy.

 

It would be a lot more interesting if you could argue your case. Just saying. 

 

43 minutes ago, zhounan said:

Brainwashed kid. MK ULTRA. Is she the antichrist on XXI century?

 

26 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

What has having autism got to do with anything?

 

She's being used by powerful people & will unfortunately end up as a basket case

 

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

I think all the attention she's been getting has done her more harm than good. I'm not talking about her cause, I'm talking about her personality and sense of entitlement. "Stolen my dreams", my ass.

 

1 hour ago, Sticky Wicket said:

I find her incredibly creepy. 

Sadly she's being used as a puppet to push the narrative

 

2 hours ago, Letseng said:

She enjoys publicity just like the attending politicians.

 

18 minutes ago, Forethat said:

You're wrong. The power is not hers. It has been given to her. It can be taken away by the snap of a finger.

 

Follow the money. 

Several examples of ad hominem fallacy with zero accompanying facts.

 

It's far easier to prove a statement than disprove one. Go for it.

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4 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Several examples of ad hominem fallacy with zero accompanying facts.

 

It's far easier to prove a statement than disprove one. Go for it.

"It would be a lot more interesting if you could argue your case. Just saying." is an ad hominem fallacy?

 

Let's just say that we are in disagreement. I'll leave it there... :blush:

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Just now, Forethat said:

"It would be a lot more interesting if you could argue your case. Just saying." is an ad hominem fallacy?

 

Let's just say that we are in disagreement. I'll leave it there...

One of the quotes I gave as an example was yours. Care to back it up with facts? Or are you just going to put ad hominem fallacies out there without backing them up? As you usually do. I made a statement earlier that the majority of climate change deniers on this thread are either Brexiteers or Trumpeteers.

Double QED!

 

Fore!

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11 minutes ago, Forethat said:

What "conspiracy theory" are you referring to? That I think Greta is brilliant, committed and smart. Or that UN are introducing carbon credits to reduce ACC?

How can thinking someone brilliant, committed and smart be considered a conspiracy?

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32 minutes ago, Forethat said:

You're wrong. The power is not hers. It has been given to her. It can be taken away by the snap of a finger.

 

Follow the money. 

Is this money trail, and what it assumedly buys, as wide and furrowed as the money trail created by big oil in their purchase of politicians to act in its interests?

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I have read 2 pages of horrific, stupid, arrogant and despicable comments!

From the same people, who -most likely- complain about "today's youth" not having ideals, following ideas, being interested in anything...

People, making ignorant and mean spirited comments about her mental - condition...which seems by far better, than the one, most of you are in!

 

 

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6 hours ago, donnacha said:

The whole movement has become hysterical.

The activists decided that projecting doomsday for the end of the century was not enough to get the masses to obey.

So, they brought doomsday forward to 2050. I noted the change with interest.

Clearly, that still was not enough, so, here we are. The world ends in 2030.


 

For many species, the world has already ended. By 2030 it will have ended for a whole lot more species. How many do you want to do without?

Species loss, climate change - it's the same issue: unstoppable human expansion. I don't worry about humans - they are so successful that they have become a blight, as David Attenborough said. To solve this problem, a limit has to be put on human expansion. That's what this is about, though it's taboo to actually say so - even Greta doesn't say so, or perhaps she hasn't understood that yet.

Fact is, there's more to life on earth than human life. That's what you're not getting. 

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