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5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A 16 year old girl that is old enough to have sex, drive a car, leave home and get a job, travel the ocean on a sail boat and address the UN. Seems fair game to me. If she can't take a bit of stick, she should have stayed at home. No one forced her to address the UN, did they, and if she is as clever as they say she is, she should have known what the reaction would be.

Well, if not for Greta, we (and millions around the globe) would not be having this discussion, so, let's give her at least a little consideration.

She is deserving a lot of respect for her bravery, and she's only 16, can't expect her to think like a 60 yrs old.

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You go girl hold their feet to the fire make them face what’s happening so all of us can start making responsible changes and grow into a more sustainable world I’m proud of you kiddo!

And first of all make her shut up. 

Small point that needs clarifying. It was Greta's parents that filled her head with confusion, hate and panic, ergo they "stole her dreams". Textbook child abuse really. When she gets bored of this cl

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8 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, if not for Greta, we (and millions around the globe) would not be having this discussion, so, let's give her at least a little consideration.

She is deserving a lot of respect for her bravery, and she's only 16, can't expect her to think like a 60 yrs old.

IMO that's the problem. Adults are treating her as though she is an adult and actually knows stuff. However, 16 year olds haven't been around long enough to actually know much about anything. They don't have the maturity to know that they don't know anything either.

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO that's the problem. Adults are treating her as though she is an adult and actually knows stuff. However, 16 year olds haven't been around long enough to actually know much about anything. They don't have the maturity to know that they don't know anything either.

Well, those adults you refer to, should know better.

It's not fair to attack Greta, she is just a messenger.

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10 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, if not for Greta, we (and millions around the globe) would not be having this discussion, so, let's give her at least a little consideration.

She is deserving a lot of respect for her bravery, and she's only 16, can't expect her to think like a 60 yrs old.

Thank god-well..not like some of this bunch,anyway.

 

Actually a great many people are having this type of discussion pretty much every day and that is how pluralistic societies develope and make changes..

 

Sort of like "Well Mr Newton I don't agree with your astrology but I have invested in an apple orchard after reading your Principia..🙄

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7 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Well. Obviously overpopulation is at the root of the problem, but i would totally disagree with a forced sterilisation... It would be just ugly.

Hopefully people will grow a higher consciousness to deal with the various issues while respecting individual freedom and rights.

Ain't going to happen. The source of the population growth is now Africa, they are still used to many of the kids dying from disease and/r malnutrition so it's still something crazy like 8+ kids. Efforts to educate the continent have been unsuccesful. The Chinese invasion might actually be beneficial and cut it down some, but still, we're doomed.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Thank god-well..not like some of this bunch,anyway.

 

Actually a great many people are having this type of discussion pretty much every day and that is how pluralistic societies develope and make changes..

 

Sort of like "Well Mr Newton I don't agree with your astrology but I have invested in an apple orchard after reading your Principia..🙄

Exactly ! As Mr. Voltaire used to say: "the world is a horrible mess, but let's tend our garden".

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Well, if not for Greta, we (and millions around the globe) would not be having this discussion, so, let's give her at least a little consideration.
She is deserving a lot of respect for her bravery, and she's only 16, can't expect her to think like a 60 yrs old.


Seems we were having this discussion long before Greta was around.

What makes her any braver than a typical 16 year old? Is she in some danger?
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2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Melinda & Bill Gates foundation tried to get their traveling wave test reactor built in US. No go, caught in red tape, so they went with the devil instead and got a deal with China. Trump (correctly) cut it before they could steal all the tech. So right now it's not going anywhere because the greens blocked it. There's your "activists" in action. The only actual action they do is block progress.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerraPower

If what you say is true, i would blame Trump :smile:

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One world government.

Don't complain if you don't like the answer, and don't say it's not possible. Who knows what will happen if the climate alarmists are correct and the sky does indeed fall and the oceans wash over us?

Ugh. The problem with that is it would very, very likely be a fascist supreme leader government. Yeah I don't like that solution, although for population control history shows it would be effective.

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3 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

 


Seems we were having this discussion long before Greta was around.

What makes her any braver than a typical 16 year old? Is she in some danger?

I was referring specifically to this thread, but yep, i remember being 16 and having discussions about the environment between school and football games.

The typical 16 yrs old, if i can say that, is too self absorbed, careless and selfish to worry about the future of the planet, but i may be wrong, of course.

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6 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

If what you say is true, i would blame Trump :smile:

Well sure everyone blames him anyway, but the reactor project started in 2010 and signed with China 2015, the orange source of everything that's bad in the world got elected 2016. But I'm sure he traveled to the future in a time machine dressed as a green activists to stop it.

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2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Well sure everyone blames him anyway, but the reactor project started in 2010 and signed with China 2015, the orange source of everything that's bad in the world got elected 2016. But I'm sure he traveled to the future in a time machine dressed as a green activists to stop it

Lol, i was kidding of course, and i also think that a one world, socialist government could be a necessary evil, if we want to save the planet.

I'll let you expand on that, if you wish so, the very thought of it makes me scared.

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On 9/24/2019 at 9:53 AM, TooBigToFit said:

I support her. She's sticking it to the same people that ruin everything in the world. We have leaders that don't know about the issues at all. Most of the posters here are old and most old people can't get it. I'm old too but I've always cared about the natural world. Anyways, if this forum had more people in their teens, 20s and 30s, we would be reading a lot more diverse opinions on this.

 

On a related note, this morning I caught a foot long python in my apartment building in Prathumthani. I put in in a container and left to work planning to drop it off in an area where it would have a chance to survive, I drove to the greenest areas nearby and let it go but even there it won't have much of a chance to live without human contact eventually.

The end of the world is nigh. Mmm I’m sue I have heard that one before........

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