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4 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

 Anyway the idea that increased population itself is affecting the climate is totally misleading. People in poorer countries where the biggest increases in population occur don't consume huge quantities of fossil fuels. The exception of course is the jungle burning which plagues SEAsia and Brazil most.

And the immigration to countries where they will start using more resources. The population growth in 1st world is still ongoing even with the birth rates below replacement ratio. In US Trump is on it, though. EU also learned a lesson in the last few years.

 

https://population.un.org/wpp/Graphs/Probabilistic/POP/TOT/840

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You go girl hold their feet to the fire make them face what’s happening so all of us can start making responsible changes and grow into a more sustainable world I’m proud of you kiddo!

And first of all make her shut up. 

Small point that needs clarifying. It was Greta's parents that filled her head with confusion, hate and panic, ergo they "stole her dreams". Textbook child abuse really. When she gets bored of this cl

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Just now, Bluespunk said:

Sterilizing people is not a solution to climate change.

Well... it is to man made climate change. No humans, no man made climate change. Unless you're saying climate is changing without the actions of humans, yup, there I agree 100%.

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Just now, DrTuner said:

Well... it is to man made climate change. No humans, no man made climate change. Unless you're saying climate is changing without the actions of humans, yup, there I agree 100%.

I added more to my post.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

You say pay them, what happens when enough people don't volunteer...forced sterilization next.

 

Who then chooses who gets sterilized?

 

What criteria is to be used?

 

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15 hours ago, RideJocky said:

 


What do “corporations” stand to gain?
 

 

The big energy companies will get billions in grants, loans  subsidies and other funding to go green. The tax payers will pay of course. This is the true subtext of the Thunberg hysteria.

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25 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Ah ok, what criteria is used if voluntary sterilization does not work, same as usual: Survival of the fittest (as in the meanest with the best weapons). It'll be ugly.

So the same end result as the eugenics movement.

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10 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

So the same end result as the eugenics movement.

Maybe. Depends on who's the last man standing. Last time around the allies managed to win. There is one thing that does sound legit: the fourth WW will be fought with sticks and stones.

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I haven't followed this thread but I firmly believe in climate change hoax.  At the rate the hoax is rising we are dangerously close to being inundated by BS.  Climate change hoax is serious and people and governments must do something to stop it or we are doomed to be forced to accept sheer propaganda with no turning back.

 

I found this interesting vid of a guy who has created software where you can take any data point and move the start date of the data to produce an upward slope which the climate change hoaxers would have you believe.  Very interesting.

 

Maybe someone else has already posted this but I ain't going through 85 pages to see if someone did.

 

 

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16 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Lol, i was kidding of course, and i also think that a one world, socialist government could be a necessary evil, if we want to save the planet.

I'll let you expand on that, if you wish so, the very thought of it makes me scared.

If the climate warriors are right and the sky falls, the surviving peoples will welcome any semblance of a government that will save them. However, they should be careful of what they wish for. The Nazis were elected to stop the chaos and look what they did.

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16 hours ago, DrTuner said:

I think Greta is the last and only hope for democracy (ironically, as she's an anarchist), people need to be scared <deleted>less to start educating themselves (and to start suspecting the CO2 is just a money grab, far more pressing issues are at hand) and vote for the hard decisions to be made. Otherwise, yes it's socialism here we come again, I think I'll need to start studying the little red book on how to become the cadre of all cadres, it's good up there, but only up there. The one child policy and the existence of only one kind of telephone in DDR are examples where socialism/communism works, but the rest of it is far too high a price to pay.

 

In other words, we're doomed.

We agree. I don't think we are doomed because the 3% of man made CO2 in the atmosphere ( apparently 97 % of atmospheric CO2 is of natural origin ) is going to kill us, but we've been around for about 50,000 years, and it only took us the last 200 years to pollute the planet to the point of human extinction. The faster the population grows, the faster we reach extinction point, and the only thing governments are talking about is banning plastic bags in supermarkets and making us drive electric cars that are highly polluting to make and power. Oh, and erecting loads of bird killing windmills as well.

 

Gaia may have a solution, but I don't imagine it will be human friendly.

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16 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

I'm also quite perplexed by the media farce, i stopped watching TV about 40 yrs ago btw.

But that's not Greta's fault.

It's obvious that the little girl is being used in some way, yet i prefer to look at the positive side of things.

Monty Python said it best.

Always look on the bright side of life.

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We agree. I don't think we are doomed because the 3% of man made CO2 in the atmosphere ( apparently 97 % of atmospheric CO2 is of natural origin ) is going to kill us, but we've been around for about 50,000 years, and it only took us the last 200 years to pollute the planet to the point of human extinction. The faster the population grows, the faster we reach extinction point...


So how many billion people does it take to become extinct?

I would think we would need fewer people (like zero?) to be extinct, no?
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The big energy companies will get billions in grants, loans  subsidies and other funding to go green. The tax payers will pay of course. This is the true subtext of the Thunberg hysteria.


I agree, but my question had to do with how the evil corporations benefit from funding “denier” research, not how the benefit from “true believer” research.
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