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While I really like the Tenere 700 (mainly due to its weight but that headlight is fugly), I'm not sure we can count it as a 2020 model because it has been on sale already in Europe this year. And no idea when it will come to Thailand. I think it would be a very good bike for here and if they price it right at say 300-350k, then it could steal quite some sales from the Africa Twin. If the AT lost 20-30kg it would be extremely close to a perfect bike for me. Wont happen anytime soon though.

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3 hours ago, papa al said:

seems overkill

What?

Which?

73 hp?

2 hours ago, eisfeld said:

While I really like the Tenere 700 (mainly due to its weight but that headlight is fugly), I'm not sure we can count it as a 2020 model because it has been on sale already in Europe this year. And no idea when it will come to Thailand. I think it would be a very good bike for here and if they price it right at say 300-350k, then it could steal quite some sales from the Africa Twin. If the AT lost 20-30kg it would be extremely close to a perfect bike for me. Wont happen anytime soon though.

Each to their own. Headlight is fab.

Styling kills an AT and the German version of an AT (GS850).

Only been available in Europe since the beginning of this month.

Selling as many as they can get. Factory in France cannot keep up with demand.

Will be in TH years end or latest Mar-April 2020.

Will be a full import from the Japan factory.

How could it be 300-350k when an MT07 retails at 299k, and an XSR700 retails at 339k?

And this bike has full adj suspension front and rear, and spoked wheels, all more expensive stuff than the above models. It retails at a minimum 1000GBP more than the XSR in the UK.

Price will be 100k more expensive than the MT07 or XSR700 so around 399-439k.

This was all told to me on Friday by a Yamaha field supervisor i know.

He wants one, and they are extremely anticipated over here.

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I forgot that Yamaha overcharges here quite a bit. In DE the Tenere 700 is 9600 EUR (321k THB) that's why I thought it should be possible to bring it at 350k to Thailand.

 

You can't say that styling kills the AT when most people believe it's really good looking and sells also like hotcakes. For you maybe yes but not for the majority of people. But then again you also like the headlight of the Tenere 😄

 

Good to hear though that it will come soon to the local market. Always good to see more diversity!

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9 hours ago, eisfeld said:

Africa Twin 1100cc

So now the Africa Twin with cornering ABS somebody pick me up when I stop laughing. 🤣 😂

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6 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

So now the Africa Twin with cornering ABS somebody pick me up when I stop laughing. 🤣 😂

People were laughing when ABS was new. People were laughing when traction control was new. Now people are laughing as cornering ABS is new.

 

I've tried all of these and I appreciate them being there (and configurable). I don't see the problem.

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5 hours ago, eisfeld said:

You can't say that styling kills the AT when most people believe it's really good looking and sells also like hotcakes. For you maybe yes but not for the majority of people. But then again you also like the headlight of the Tenere

Yep. you got that bit right...

I'm not most people.

And i certainly aint ever in the majority.

5 hours ago, eisfeld said:

In DE the Tenere 700 is 9600 EUR (321k THB)

So how much is a stock  XSR700 in DE?

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12 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

People were laughing when ABS was new. People were laughing when traction control was new. Now people are laughing as cornering ABS is new.

 

I've tried all of these and I appreciate them being there (and configurable). I don't see the problem.

I think different to you, I don't need cornering ABS riding across a river or riding in the desert.

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13 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I think different to you, I don't need cornering ABS riding across a river or riding in the desert.

Then don't use it? It will not intrude during your offroad activities... I still don't see the issue.

 

Meanwhile for the majority if people who spend the majority on the roads cornering ABS can be quite useful.

 

I am like the majority. I have ridden my AT more than 36500 km so far and maybe 500km of that were offroad including mud, sand and rivers.

 

If you are one of those special cases that has offroad terrain all around him or trailers his bike to it, more power to you but then again I'm sure you wouldn't choose a heavy bike like the AT for those pure offroad sessions, would you?

 

 

Now, let's please get back on topic of new bikes for 2020 instead of bickering about new technology.

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14 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

So how much is a stock  XSR700 in DE?

 

19 hours ago, eisfeld said:

In DE the Tenere 700 is 9600 EUR (321k THB)

 

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7695 EUR 259k THB for the XSR700. Taking it proportionally if the XSR is 339k here then the Tenere 700 should then be 423k THB. Especially with the strong Baht which of course didn't result in lower prices they are making a killing on a sale. Imported at 0% from Japan...

 

 

Back on topic Kawa teased a supercharged Z and Triumph teased a new Street Triple.

 

Edit: well <deleted>, I can't edit the original post so I can't modify the list. What an annoying restriction...

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I would have expected the Yamaha to be about 420K. Its at least as good as the AT , but 30KG lighter.  I just checked the price list of the AT.  580,000 Baht  !!!.  Fell off my chair. And dont forget the Honda "dealers" will often charge even more than the recommended price.  Ive often found the Hondas to be overpriced by about 40%.  Yamaha are both cheaper , and of better quality.  Now lets hope some new models around 400/450 come out. Not counting the 25 BHP Honda CRF 450 , at whatever the price is.

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