U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[Bluespunk 52,909]

9 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

From the documents made available.  This is only part of what a read.  A long read but . . .

 

<snip>

 

[9/9/19, 12:47:11 AM] (Ambassador) Bill Taylor:  As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

 

[9/9/19, 5:19:35 AM] (Ambassador) Gordon Sondland:  Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions.  The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo's of any kind.  The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign.  <snip>

Doesn’t change the facts of what the trump Whitehouse demanded for the visit. 
 

Naughty, naughty, naughty...

[Becker 8,128]

26 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Here's another free tip.  How to prevent people from receiving truthful information and maintain your narrative.  Label it an "unreliable source."

Look, we get that you're frustrated due to the mountain of irrefutable evidence proving your guy is a traitor and a criminal but believe me when I tell you your frantic deflections do not help your case a all.

[Tippaporn 8,980]

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Doesn’t change the facts of what the trump Whitehouse demanded for the visit. 
 

Naughty, naughty, naughty...

Did you read the documents made available in the Guardian piece?

[Kelsall 5,388]

Impeachment is backfiring on the Dems.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/10/03/trump_fundraising_haul_shows_impeachment_backfiring_on_dems_141397.html

[Tippaporn 8,980]

10 minutes ago, Becker said:

Look, we get that you're frustrated due to the mountain of irrefutable evidence proving your guy is a traitor and a criminal but believe me when I tell you your frantic deflections do not help your case a all.

Too funny, Becker.  You make believe that I'm frustrated, you claim mountains of irrefutable evidence as proof when the evidence is up for interpretation, you ignore or discredit evidence to the contrary, and you imaginatively believe I'm deflecting.

 

President Zelensky, the guy who is supposedly being extorted, has said that it's not true.  So let me get this straight.  Trump is accused of extorting a guy who says he wasn't being extorted so we'll charge Trump with extortion anyway.  LMAO.  Twisted, perverse logic.

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by Tippaporn

[Bluespunk 52,909]

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Did you read the documents made available in the Guardian piece?

Yes. 
 

I also read the article. 
 

“The conversations leave no doubt that the state department was deeply involved in the effort to use the office of the presidency to pressure a foreign government to investigate Trump’s political enemies. At one point the diplomats even draft a statement for Zelenskiy to read out.”

Edited October 4, 2019 by Bluespunk

[Tippaporn 8,980]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yes. 
 

I also read the article. 

Care to share the damning points?

[Bluespunk 52,909]

14 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Care to share the damning points?

Mostly in the article. 
 

Including the one I shared. 
 

However, here’s another for you

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by Bluespunk

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5 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Care to share the damning points?

You can ask that until you run out of air.  All you will hear is crickets.

[johnnybangkok 5,160]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Here's another tip.  This one is on how to prevent anyone from asking salient questions.  Yell "conspiracy theory" as loud as you can!

It's a conspiracy theory when it is completely unverified and without material evidence. The former Ukrainian prosecutor has already said there is no correlation to Biden getting rid of his predecessor and when referring to Hunter Biden “From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” He then went on to say “Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival.'

 

A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful actors, often political in motivation - I don't know what else to call it when it is the very definition of a conspiracy theory.

 

 

[Sujo 16,946]

25 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Too funny, Becker.  You make believe that I'm frustrated, you claim mountains of irrefutable evidence as proof when the evidence is up for interpretation, you ignore or discredit evidence to the contrary, and you imaginatively believe I'm deflecting.

 

President Zelensky, the guy who is supposedly being extorted, has said that it's not true.  So let me get this straight.  Trump is accused of extorting a guy who says he wasn't being extorted so we'll charge Trump with extortion anyway.  LMAO.  Twisted, perverse logic.

 

Then you have no issue with the impeachment investigation as it will exonerate him.

 

Actually you should welcome it as it will prove biden corrupt.

 

So it suits you to have it. Stop complaining.

[Tippaporn 8,980]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Then you have no issue with the impeachment investigation as it will exonerate him.

 

Actually you should welcome it as it will prove biden corrupt.

 

So it suits you to have it. Stop complaining.

It's a travesty which I would choose not to have to go through.  But if it must be had then I have no issue and yes, I believe it will exonerate Trump.  And yes, I believe Biden will fall.  And more so, I believe there's more than meets the eye here, and if this was another set-up I believe the bad actors will be held to account.

[Becker 8,128]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Too funny, Becker.  You make believe that I'm frustrated, you claim mountains of irrefutable evidence as proof when the evidence is up for interpretation, you ignore or discredit evidence to the contrary, and you imaginatively believe I'm deflecting.

 

President Zelensky, the guy who is supposedly being extorted, has said that it's not true.  So let me get this straight.  Trump is accused of extorting a guy who says he wasn't being extorted so we'll charge Trump with extortion anyway.  LMAO.  Twisted, perverse logic.

 

Do point out the twisted, perverse logic in this:

 

Link: Judge Napolitano: Trump's brazen acts of corruption

"Judge Napolitano's Chambers: Judge Andrew Napolitano explains how President Trump asking a foreign government or any foreign national to get dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense."

 

PS. @Tippaporn. 30 minutes and nothing. Did the cat get your fingers?

Edited October 4, 2019 by Becker

[Skeptic7 4,333]

On 9/25/2019 at 5:24 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

This will hurt Biden and help Trump. Funny, it was only a few months ago that he was about to be impeached for colluding with Russia to game an election. It looks like they are desperate to impeach Trump seeing as he will thrash any Dem candidate, yet don't have a reason to do it. Not good optics for them heading into 2020.

The man-child is so slimy dirty it's hard to pick a starting point. His slippery, slimy ways and days are numbered. The impeachment will not succeed, but The Teflon Don will never be re-elected. 

[Skeptic7 4,333]

30 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

The man-child is so slimy dirty it's hard to pick a starting point. His slippery, slimy ways and days are numbered. The impeachment will not succeed, but The Teflon Don will never be re-elected. 

And THEN the real fun begins, when he no longer has the ability to abuse his position and executive privilege.

 

My heart flutters just thinking about it!