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17 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

 


Yes, everyone knew it was the video that set off the Benghazi attack.

 

Everyone knrw after a million investigations there was a nothing burger. Hows them for apples.

 

I expect Trey to apply the same dogged insistence that subpeonas are complied with.

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18 minutes ago, Sujo said:

I expect Trey to apply the same dogged insistence that subpeonas are complied with.

Indeed. Here's what Gowdy said about complying with a congressional inquiry during the Benghazi investigation.

 

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The notion that you can withhold information and documents from Congress no matter whether you are the party in power or not in power is wrong. Respect for the rule of law must mean something, irrespective of the vicissitudes of political cycles.

Based on that principle, he should of course be urging the White House to hand over all the documents and information that has been requested and allow witnesses (such as Sondland) to appear.

 

I won't hold my breath.

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Just a few questions.  Since it's confirmed that Schiff has had contact with the whistle blower prior to the filing of the complaint, which makes him a fact witness, then how is it that he can maintain his status as chairman and the face of this "investigation"?  Does it bother people that even though he's disqualified himself from leading this "investigation" he refuses to recuse himself?  I believe most everyone wants the U.S. to return to it's founding ideal of justice for all.  Does it not fly in the face of that ideal to have a man leading an "investigation" of someone else's alleged wrong doing when he himself cannot abide by that ideal?

 

Everything aside, I wanted to raise that single, standalone issue and ask the Americans here how they feel about the duality of Schiff's actions.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trey-gowdy-adam-schiff-has-made-himself-a-fact-witness

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12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Just a few questions.  Since it's confirmed that Schiff has had contact with the whistle blower prior to the filing of the complaint, which makes him a fact witness, then how is it that he can maintain his status as chairman and the face of this "investigation"?  Does it bother people that even though he's disqualified himself from leading this "investigation" he refuses to recuse himself?  I believe most everyone wants the U.S. to return to it's founding ideal of justice for all.  Does it not fly in the face of that ideal to have a man leading an "investigation" of someone else's alleged wrong doing when he himself cannot abide by that ideal?

 

Everything aside, I wanted to raise that single, standalone issue and ask the Americans here how they feel about the duality of Schiff's actions.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trey-gowdy-adam-schiff-has-made-himself-a-fact-witness

Gowdy has no say in who is or is not a witness. Only congress does.

 

More deflection

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37 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

bingo, bingo, bang, bang another bad day for dem egg heads ...documents reveal ukraine opened

probe into hunter biden firm months before trumpy call. foxnews just now.

 

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And that has anything to do with trump asking a foreign govt to investigate biden how?

 

U do know its not his firm dont u? He worked for them.

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4 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

thats very easy ....the legal letter sent by the whouse legal counselor to pelosi on the 8.10.19

 

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Do you mean the letter that demands the investigation be conducted by the same rules as a trial?  The one that allows the White House to cross-exam witnesses during the investigation?  Do you think that's how it works in the real world?

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https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition/

 

Standard 3-1.6 Improper Bias Prohibited 

(a) The prosecutor should not manifest or exercise, by words or conduct, bias or prejudice based upon race, sex, religion, national origin, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or socioeconomic status. A prosecutor should not use other improper considerations, such as partisan or political or personal considerations, in exercising prosecutorial discretion. A prosecutor should strive to eliminate implicit biases, and act to mitigate any improper bias or prejudice when credibly informed that it exists within the scope of the prosecutor’s authority.

 

How many times has Schiff declared his bias towards Trump?  Would this also be cause for Schiff to recuse himself?

 

I'm thinking that given some of the known, indisputable facts surrounding this "investigation" we could all at least come to a unified consensus on certain points, independent of personal political persuasion.  We are, after all, unified in a call for justice and that justice is performed fairly.  So who here would differ in opinion that Schiff needs to recuse himself and on what basis?

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https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition/
 
Standard 3-1.6 Improper Bias Prohibited 
(a) The prosecutor should not manifest or exercise, by words or conduct, bias or prejudice based upon race, sex, religion, national origin, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, or socioeconomic status. A prosecutor should not use other improper considerations, such as partisan or political or personal considerations, in exercising prosecutorial discretion. A prosecutor should strive to eliminate implicit biases, and act to mitigate any improper bias or prejudice when credibly informed that it exists within the scope of the prosecutor’s authority.
 
How many times has Schiff declared his bias towards Trump?  Would this also be cause for Schiff to recuse himself?
 
I'm thinking that given some of the known, indisputable facts surrounding this "investigation" we could all at least come to a unified consensus on certain points, independent of personal political persuasion.  We are, after all, unified in a call for justice and that justice is performed fairly.  So who here would differ in opinion that Schiff needs to recuse himself and on what basis?
You do know that this is an impeachment investgation and not a criminal court don't you?

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3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

https://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fact-witness/

 

A fact witness is a person with knowledge about what happened in a particular case, who testifies in the case about what happened or what the facts are. Fact witness testimony consists of the recitation of facts and/or events as opposed to an expert witness, whose testimony consists of the presentation of an opinion, a diagnosis, etc.

 

If this ever gets to the Senate you can be darn sure Schiff will be called as a witness.

 

Since he is a fact witness it should disqualify him to lead any prosecution.  I would assume that Gowdy, a seasoned prosecutor, would know for certain and would not make a statement to that regard if it was indeed false.  Taking Gowdy's word and Kevin McCarthy's word then what I posted is correct.  Schiff should recuse himself.

 

If anyone has factual information in contradiction then by all means present it.  Otherwise I'm not interested in replying to posters responding with mere, unsupported speculation.

 

He is no leading any prosecution. Seriously on what planet do you get your information.

 

The prosecution, impeachment hearing is done in the senate. He is not a senator.

 

This is an investigation and congress alone determines how that is conducted. 

 

You have been told many times but you still dont get it.

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