U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

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38 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

If there are any crimes committed, I am sure Barr will follow the law...he always does.

Just as he's doing in investigating the 2016 illegal spying into trumps campaign.

I dont think the Giuliani episode involves liability for Trump though.

Next.

 

Giulani is a stooge and a criminal.  Don't worry they will get him very soon.  Barr is slightly safer, but I bet his is still <deleted>t*ng himself at the moment, and let me point something out to you, it isn't because he has been following the law.

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3 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

I think you are referring to the previous administration whose VP is on camera

boasting about committing extortion with Ukraine. 

That was a very clear quid pro quo presented by Biden:  Because of Ukraine's history of putting aid money into the pockets of corrupt officials, we won't approve the latest loan until you get rid of the incompetent prosecutor who is impeding corruption investigations.

Edited October 12, 2019 by heybruce

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1 hour ago, chokrai said:

https://nypost.com/2019/10/10/6-facts-about-hunter-bidens-business-dealings-in-china/ Look the other way nothing to see here. 

Hunter Biden isn't President and isn't running for President.  The current President leans on officials to stay at his resorts, rents rooms to foreign officials, spends as many weekends as possible at his resort with his staff and security people at government expense, promotes his properties for the next G7 meeting, etc.

 

In short, nothing in the past of any current Presidential candidate compares to the corruption and conflict of interests Trump has.

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3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Hunter Biden isn't President and isn't running for President.  The current President leans on officials to stay at his resorts, rents rooms to foreign officials, spends as many weekends as possible at his resort with his staff and security people at government expense, promotes his properties for the next G7 meeting, etc.

 

In short, nothing in the past of any current Presidential candidate compares to the corruption and conflict of interests Trump has.

Joe Biden and his son dealing is China are far worse then anything Trump has done, you just never hear about it because you guessed it they are Democrats.

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23 minutes ago, chokrai said:

Joe Biden and his son dealing is China are far worse then anything Trump has done, you just never hear about it because you guessed it they are Democrats.

Based on what?  That article from the ny post by the same guy who had to back down from his reporting on the so-called Uranium One Scandal? And what "evidence" was offered there was pretty weak.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

That was a very clear quid pro quo presented by Biden:  Because of Ukraine's history of putting aid money into the pockets of corrupt officials, we won't approve the latest loan until you get rid of the incompetent prosecutor who is impeding corruption investigations.

 

Hahahaha....

That's certainly not how Joe Biden tells it....on camera. 

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When they draw up articles of impeachment they should add one for Premeditated Murder.  That's what he is doing by abandoning the Kurds in Northern Syria to fulfil a campaign promise!

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1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Hahahaha....

That's certainly not how Joe Biden tells it....on camera. 

What did he say on camera that conflicted with my post?

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3 hours ago, chokrai said:

Joe Biden and his son dealing is China are far worse then anything Trump has done, you just never hear about it because you guessed it they are Democrats.

Provide some evidence, any evidence, that Joe Biden used his office to do anything to advantage his son.

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2 hours ago, wayned said:

When they draw up articles of impeachment they should add one for Premeditated Murder.  That's what he is doing by abandoning the Kurds in Northern Syria to fulfil a campaign promise!

I don't think it was to fulfill a campaign promise.  Turkey has a Trump hotel, the Kurds have nothing.  So of course Trump favors Turkey.  The Kurds are just more people to be used and discarded by Trump, his standard method of operation.  Some day Trump's base will learn that Trump will abandon them without hesitation if it suits his needs.

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25 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I don't think it was to fulfil a campaign promise.  Turkey has a Trump hotel, the Kurds have nothing.  So of course Trump favors Turkey.  The Kurds are just more people to be used and discarded by Trump, his standard method of operation.  Some day Trump's base will learn that Trump will abandon them without hesitation if it suits his needs.

I think that Giuliani is about to find put.  The Bus is speeding towards him

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3 hours ago, wayned said:

When they draw up articles of impeachment they should add one for Premeditated Murder.  That's what he is doing by abandoning the Kurds in Northern Syria to fulfil a campaign promise!

Can a president be charged for that sort of thing? If they could, there are several previous presidents that would have been charged.

 

All war presidents make decisions that involve the deaths of people, sometimes in the hundreds of thousands.

Edited October 12, 2019 by thaibeachlovers

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can a president be charged for that sort of thing? If they could, there are several previous presidents that would have been charged.

 

All war presidents make decisions that involve the deaths of people, sometimes in the hundreds of thousands.

By retreating to leave their ally to get slaughtered?

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can a president be charged for that sort of thing? If they could, there are several previous presidents that would have been charged.

 

All war presidents make decisions that involve the deaths of people, sometimes in the hundreds of thousands.

It had nothing to do with any war, it was a campaign promise.  He now says that all of the troops have been removed from Syria which is another out right lie.  There are still a little over 1000 of the most combat ready troops still there.  One lie after another, on and on and on and.....!!!  Whether he is reelected or not, the lies will continue until he kicks the bucket.

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11 minutes ago, Sujo said:

By retreating to leave their ally to get slaughtered?

Hardly the first time the Americans have done that. The British, also, were quite partial to leaving their allies in war to face unpleasant retribution after.

I don't agree with it, but it happens.

The pity is that the Americans should never have been there in the first place. It wasn't their war.