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I'm leaning towards no impeachment.

 

He'll have to resign.

 

I have to say that the pace of his mental decline is startling.

 

Sad.

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Mulvaney Confirms Ukraine Aid Held Up for Political Purposes

ACTING WHITE HOUSE chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged Thursday that the White House indeed had held up congressionally approved aid to Ukraine to get the nation to investigate alleged Democratic misdeeds in the 2016 campaign, undercutting President Donald Trump's angry and repeated insistence that there was "no quid pro quo."

"The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate," Mulvaney told reporters at the White House.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-10-17/mick-mulvaney-confirms-ukraine-aid-held-up-for-political-purposes

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On 10/16/2019 at 8:01 PM, Sujo said:

Conviction in the senate will only have a chance if polls show around 60% of the public want it. If that doesnt happen trump could shoot someone on 5th avenue and still the senate would not convict.

 

But what it will do is show the public how bad trump is, and to win election they dont need that big a % to vote him out.

Actually, it depends on the % of GOP senators voters that want them to vote against Trump. No senator that faces re election is going to vote against their self interest, IMO. They are after all politicians. No statesmen around anymore, IMO.

 

To vote Trump out in the election requires a Dem candidate or independent candidate that people believe in, and so far that person hasn't appeared.

If any of the current lot stand, it's everyone else against the coasts, IMO, and Trump wins again.

However, if they find another Bernie or Jack Kennedy, Trump is history. Biden or Warren just are not the cheese, but who can say what will happen in the coming months. We live in interesting times. The Dems must be tearing out their hair they can't find a universally popular candidate. Which of course, IMO, is why they are going for broke on the impeachment. If they can convict Trump they only have to deal with Pence, though he would probably win anyway.

 

Surely no one believes that the voters didn't know he was a bad guy before the last election? They voted for him because he was a better bad choice than the opposing candidate, IMO.

 

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3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Mulvaney Confirms Ukraine Aid Held Up for Political Purposes

ACTING WHITE HOUSE chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged Thursday that the White House indeed had held up congressionally approved aid to Ukraine to get the nation to investigate alleged Democratic misdeeds in the 2016 campaign, undercutting President Donald Trump's angry and repeated insistence that there was "no quid pro quo."

"The look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate," Mulvaney told reporters at the White House.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-10-17/mick-mulvaney-confirms-ukraine-aid-held-up-for-political-purposes

How about including the rest of what he said? You are only telling the part that benefits your side of the argument.

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15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think its too bad he won't live to see the outcome of the impeachment process that he has been so involved in.

Well, he won't be disappointed when it fails and Trump is elected for another 4 years, IMO.

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How about including the rest of what he said? You are only telling the part that benefits your side of the argument.


Shocking...
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only later after he was told the truth should not be told did he try to walk it back. But not successfully.


Why was Adam Schiff advising him?
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There will be no impeachment because Nancy doesn't have the votes.  This is just another part of the smear campaign against Trump.  They can't beat him on the issues so the smear campaign is all they have.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How about including the rest of what he said? You are only telling the part that benefits your side of the argument.

How about this definition of a gaffe?

"A Kinsley gaffe occurs when a political gaffe reveals some truth that a politician did not intend to admit. The term comes from journalist Michael Kinsley, who said, "A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn't supposed to say."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_gaffe

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36 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

There will be no impeachment because Nancy doesn't have the votes.  This is just another part of the smear campaign against Trump.  They can't beat him on the issues so the smear campaign is all they have.

Ahhhh you do know that half of Donald’s scandals are created to distract from the issues because he is failing a few examples health care ,trade ,infrastructure ,taxes ,immigration ,race relations ,the other half are from shear incompetence they have more than enough in the house and the senate will come around imo

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Ahhhh you do know that half of Donald’s scandals are created to distract from the issues because he is failing a few examples health care ,trade ,infrastructure ,taxes ,immigration ,race relations ,the other half are from shear incompetence they have more than enough in the house and the senate will come around imo


Yes, the left is doing all they can to stop him from doing anything.

You must be proud
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2 hours ago, Sujo said:

That is all that he said. There was a quid pro quo. Reporters asked him several times to give him a chance to clarify or change and

 he kept on saying it. Then finally said thats the way its done, get over it.

 

He was very open about what was done.

 

only later after he was told the truth should not be told did he try to walk it back. But not successfully.

Local news service gave us both sides of the story.

 

"successfully" depends on which side you are sitting. I found it satisfactory.

 

IMO won't change anything, as a "trial" in the senate would surely allow Trump's team to give similar examples of what the Dems have done in the past.

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