ROGER DUNN Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hi Apart from being in Bangkok in December we would like to go up to Chiang Mai for a week, what about the burn offs ?? Is it advisable to go , Would like some advice. Thanks will be Appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Moving to the Chiang Mai forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenside Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 December-Jan will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommers Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Greenside is misinformed. The air quality is already in September double the WHO levels for PM2,5 particles and we are not yet even close to the so-called burning season. And of course there are no signs that the Governor is even in Chiang Mai. Last we heard he was in Shanghai learning how to create clean air rooms. Kind of strikes me that he has little intention of dealing with the source of the pollution because it us caused by big business interests, but as per last season he will try to use minimalist palliative initiatives to gain positive press coverage whilst the majority are poisoned even inside their own homes. The most egregious behaviour of a weak administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Smith Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Give Chiang Mai a miss. Literally nothing to see, right now ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Burning has already started in the province. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjnaus Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Came back from Chiang Mai yesterday after spending the weekend. Air quality was pretty bad (US AQI hover between 120 - 150); without any clear explanation why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaamGin Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Went out to walk the dogs this morning early and could smell smoke in Mae Hia. Never seen or smelled smoke before in CM this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahseer Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, mjnaus said: Came back from Chiang Mai yesterday after spending the weekend. Air quality was pretty bad (US AQI hover between 120 - 150); without any clear explanation why... Where were you travelling from? Presently the entire northern part of Thailand from Bangkok up is suffering from similar smog levels and it doesn't improve until you get south of Hua Hin. https://www.airvisual.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Really sad to read this is starting already. Will be there next month but will reduce our stay then just visit friends renew wife's passport & exit Thanks for the heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Air seems fine to me. Burning if have any is far and few between being very minimal. This is near the city though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordblackader Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, brommers said: Greenside is misinformed. The air quality is already in September double the WHO levels for PM2,5 particles and we are not yet even close to the so-called burning season. And of course there are no signs that the Governor is even in Chiang Mai. Last we heard he was in Shanghai learning how to create clean air rooms. Kind of strikes me that he has little intention of dealing with the source of the pollution because it us caused by big business interests, but as per last season he will try to use minimalist palliative initiatives to gain positive press coverage whilst the majority are poisoned even inside their own homes. The most egregious behaviour of a weak administration. The only person misinformed is you. The governor retired yesterday for starters and has been doing farewell ceremonies in CM for the last week, he was in a Shanghai about a month ago and while there is a bit a smog around at the moment the air has been good since the the middle of May - statistically good. https://www.facebook.com/aqichiangmai/app/190322544333196/?hc_location=ufi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 go now the burn will last 5 + months in spring.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysoul Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 People harvested the longans so now they are burning the leaves. And no more rain, that's what make the air not as good as 1 month ago. Now 74 in Chiang Dao, 90 average in CM. In December normally it shouldn't be bad. At least it wasn't the last 10 years ! Come and see ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, mjnaus said: Came back from Chiang Mai yesterday after spending the weekend. Air quality was pretty bad (US AQI hover between 120 - 150); without any clear explanation why... Locals burn black garbage bags every night instead of paying some baht to have them taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, lordblackader said: The only person misinformed is you. No no.. I am also misinformed on so many things... as is the general public at large... I think most people are misinformed about most things... not just whoever you were insulting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, mjnaus said: Came back from Chiang Mai yesterday after spending the weekend. Air quality was pretty bad (US AQI hover between 120 - 150); without any clear explanation why... There has been explanations on the current smoke haze in CM ( not just the city, it's worse in the districts east of CM ) on the news on several tv stations and that is that some of it is being caused by the smoke from the forest fires in Indonesia but MOST of it is coming from Cambodia where they are in the midst of their burning season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presnock Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 looking at historical data (1year only) each Sept as the rainy season moves on south, the aqi here in CM starts moving up. Since 3 weeks ago it did just that and seems to move a bit higher each day. Currently the reading throughout the city vary from 90's to 200+ and it usually goes higher through the night. From last year's chart, this will probably continue (unless a lot of farmers start burning early) until mid January and from then till May will be very unhealthy, rivaling the worse cities of the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, legend49 said: Locals burn black garbage bags every night Why don't they burn the contents and save the black plastic bags for reuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerox Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Because they want to inhale the poison from the plastic. It is more fun and feels better ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaila Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, TigerandDog said: There has been explanations on the current smoke haze in CM ( not just the city, it's worse in the districts east of CM ) on the news on several tv stations and that is that some of it is being caused by the smoke from the forest fires in Indonesia but MOST of it is coming from Cambodia where they are in the midst of their burning season. Yes it is cambodia,laos and myanmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugocnx Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TigerandDog said: There has been explanations on the current smoke haze in CM ( not just the city, it's worse in the districts east of CM ) on the news on several tv stations and that is that some of it is being caused by the smoke from the forest fires in Indonesia but MOST of it is coming from Cambodia where they are in the midst of their burning season. Forest burning smog from Indonesia may be of some influence to the deeper south, but no way for the rest of the country. If you take a look at sites like Ventusky you might have seen that winds like in Chiang Mai were mostly east in September rather than the usual south-west. There wasn't even a loophole, let's say, from Indonesia up north to Manilla and then with some tornado back to Thailand. So Cambodski and Laos make more sense. Edit: As of this month wind in CM is again south-west. Let's see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 From an air pollution perspective, December traditionally is the beginning of the lead-up to the bad smog season in CM that really gets bad into the new year. Whether it will be worse this year and start earlier or not remains to be seen. http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/air-quality/local/Thailand/Chiang_Mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjnaus Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Mahseer said: Where were you travelling from? Presently the entire northern part of Thailand from Bangkok up is suffering from similar smog levels and it doesn't improve until you get south of Hua Hin. https://www.airvisual.com/ The deep south; which fortunately currently has rather clean air (after dealing with horrible smog from Indonesia for several weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Smith Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, scottiejohn said: Why don't they burn the contents and save the black plastic bags for reuse? Garbage burners tend to be retarded, so the concept of recycling is beyond them. It's the fumes from the burning plastic that lead to their retardation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahseer Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, mjnaus said: The deep south; which fortunately currently has rather clean air (after dealing with horrible smog from Indonesia for several weeks) Lucky man. I spend each April south of Hua Hin and never look forward to the day I have to head north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Malone Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Not sure where these negative comments originate. We’ve been in Chiangmai for two months now, the first two weeks in Nimman and the last six in Hang Dong. We’ve seen no evidence of smog. Air quality is good. Yes, it rains during the monsoon season. How can smoke pollution survive the drenching rain? We love Chiangmai. What’s not to like? Jackie and Terry (retirees from Australia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjnaus Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Not sure where these negative comments originate. We’ve been in Chiangmai for two months now, the first two weeks in Nimman and the last six in Hang Dong. We’ve seen no evidence of smog. Air quality is good. Yes, it rains during the monsoon season. How can smoke pollution survive the drenching rain? We love Chiangmai. What’s not to like? Jackie and Terry (retirees from Australia)Just because you don’t see the air pollution (and seriously, I was in CM over the weekend and the smog was clearly visible in the city and around the airport), doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Open the AirVisual app, or any pollution map really, and you’ll see the high AQI index numbers. The worst pollution, PM 2.5 particles, aren’t visible...Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I am going to CM for Loy Krathong. Will it be smoggy then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 hours ago, kenk24 said: I think most people are misinformed about most things... But, the satisfaction I have knowing my misinformation is more misinformed than yours ... we can't quantify that in terms of particle size ... can we ? ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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