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Far Fewer Farang Waltzing Down the Chiang Mai Streets These Days. Why?

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Since you say you are a grab driver then presumably you are Thai. Farang can't drive taxis.

Thesimple answer is to ask your local elected representative this question. He is part of the current circus running the country.

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I used to enjoy some of the quiet of the "countryside" in the Chanklan area.  Used to have a condo (rented of course) in Touch Hill.  Lovely and quiet as long as you're facing North or North-East and if you can stand (next door) the sound of the cocks being trained for fighting.

 

Best coffee shop in Thailand almost next door to Touch Hill.  Called Oasis the last time I was there.

Best restaurant in town (Niman soi 11) was Why Not?

 

Found my lovely wife in CM, but we would never return there long-term simply b/c of the pollution in January-April.

Might try a Nov/Dec visit, before the smoke comes.

 

And I will no longer go through all the sodding hoops to get myself a one-year visa.  Three months will do , IF we ever return

 

The other big no-no is the sheer danger of just crossing the road. 

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a lot of the cheap accomodation has been refurbed changing the demographic of the area
endless construction on every other soi
look at sophet
the music bars have closed down
the scene
has changed the farangs are young and just up for getting drunk at zoes in yellow
theres a new hostel called bodega always busy but its all in house drinking games
in my out of the way soi two new coffee shops just opened no imagination
high baht

visas

and over the last two years the police set up road blocks at two points at the moat and got so many 500 bahts for no licence or helmet

everywhere has a run where its the 'in' place to hang bars cafes clubs town and city
CM just hastened their demise a bit quicker than most
welcome to CM province, just like Tiawan it used to be part of China
 

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They prefer the tango. 

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Yessss AMAZING.......I had to go in town today for 5 errands........very easy to get from one spot to the other.

Can it be like that every day?

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Chiang Mai Air Quality is showing 42 (green) for 1pm today. We sometimes go for food and a beer at Kad Manee Market on Road 108 across the street from Xym Hotel. Last few times there, counted 12-15 Chinese Tour Buses and very few other Farangs. One Farang guy was waiting at a table for 6 for his wife to buy food when a family of Chinese sat down. When his wife came, they moved to another open table. A short while later, another Chinese family sat down at their new table, lol. Our Thai friends that have businesses are hurting, no customers.

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Tourism is down and that's the biggest reason why downtown is relatively quiet. Many digital nomads who mostly lived in the city or frequented downtown locations have also left.

 

Someone mentioned that things are just as lively as ever in the burbs and I agree with that observation. And the same certainly applies further out in the beautiful countryside where things are the same as they ever were.

 

The fact is that most expats (not tourists) have set up home outside the city and I don't believe that the few who have left recently make a noticeable difference.

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Chiang Mai is perhaps not the fascinating small city it used to be when I first visited 30 years ago. Sure, there are now shopping malls, many restuarants, markets aimed at tourists. But for peaceful, quiet and charming places within the city it`s harder to find than ever. Much of the city is not distinctive any more and of course there are more alternatives in the region, with Laos and Vietnam opening up. But plenty of westerners still stay in Chiang Mai. The immigration office is far busier than the one room office I remember back in the day!

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