webfact Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 elephants died, 2 survived Khao Yai waterfall By THE NATION Photo Credit:Disaster Response Association Drones have located the bodies of 11 elephants that fell into the water at Haew Narok falls in Khao Yai National Park on October 5, while only two of the herd have survived. A barricade will be erected to prevent other wildlife from falling in, said Natural Resources and Environment Minister Varawut Silpa-archa. “At this point we can confirm that this herd had 13 elephants, 11 fell into the waterfall and died, while only 2 survived and are back in the forest,” Varawut said. Five elephant bodies were found on October 5, with another five later located by the drones along the river. A press conference confirming the extent of the tragedy was held on Tuesday morning at Khao Yai National Park’s Nern Hom checkpoint, hosted by Nakhon Nayok governor Nattaphong Sirichana and Prachin Buri governor Phibun Hatthakitkosol, along with officials of Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation as well as the Disaster Response Association. The park spans Prachin Buri and Nakhon Nayok provinces. Varawut expressed his sadness about the herd’s drowning, but viewed the danger posed by the falls as beyond anyone’s power to control. “I have therefore ordered the construction of a barricade to prevent wildlife from falling into the waterfall,” he said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377191 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-08 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 What a tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 This is unacceptable! Someone should get fired for herding these elephants to certain death...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry343 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 This seems to happen on too many occasions in different parts of wild Thailand. Maybe the well-organised elephant sanctuaries is a safer option, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Barry343 said: This seems to happen on too many occasions in different parts of wild Thailand. Maybe the well-organised elephant sanctuaries is a safer option, Its nature, wild, "in tooth and claw". Now you know how paleontologists find themselves digging up a composite pile of bones, from multiple animals of the same species. This how it has been happening for millions of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btunes Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Beyond Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Let's not forget this was no natural tragedy. The elephants did not go to the cliffs willingly and were smart enough to never go there on their own. They were deliberately herded by park rangers and forced to this dangerous point where they were scared and died. Why is no one talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobsworth Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 in the movie the beach was it not this Khao Yai waterfall that they jumped off and survived? also when i went on a tour called jungle adventure were we not taken to the same waterfall and told that some falangs had jumped off this waterfall? we were invited to do the same but i respectfully declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, jobsworth said: in the movie the beach was it not this Khao Yai waterfall that they jumped off and survived? Sorry no. That was the Haew Su Wat Waterfall. Different from Haew Narok Waterfall which is located further down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjinks Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Herded by park rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, canopy said: Let's not forget this was no natural tragedy. The elephants did not go to the cliffs willingly and were smart enough to never go there on their own. They were deliberately herded by park rangers and forced to this dangerous point where they were scared and died. Why is no one talking about this? And the source of your belief is? Why would they have been deliberately herded there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, canopy said: Let's not forget this was no natural tragedy. The elephants did not go to the cliffs willingly and were smart enough to never go there on their own. They were deliberately herded by park rangers and forced to this dangerous point where they were scared and died. Why is no one talking about this? Can you supply a link to the source of your side of the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Would it be interesting to know why these elephants fell, were chased? Hunted? The elephant is a very intelligent and attentive animal, I don't think they made a mass suicide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwak250 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, hkt83100 said: Sorry no. That was the Haew Su Wat Waterfall. Different from Haew Narok Waterfall which is located further down south. You mean still in the park though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Massive cover up going on. We will never get the truth. What is inescapable is these animals were chased to their death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0815 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 A barricade WILL be erected ? Why didn't erect it long time ago ? Did the leader of the herd not ask for it ? So he is responsible ! RIP big amazing animals ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Smith Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Massive cover up going on. We will never get the truth. What is inescapable is these animals were chased to their death. You're the second to mention this. Anyone got a link to this. I missed it. That's a request, not sarcastic comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said: You're the second to mention this. Anyone got a link to this. I missed it. That's a request, not sarcastic comment. This has probably been taken from the original report Quote On Friday October 4, officials herded a large group of wild elephants along Highway No 3077 [leading to Prachi Buri city] back to Khao Yai forest,” he said. “However, early this morning [Saturday], park rangers heard elephants bellowing from the creek leading to the waterfall. The main culprit is deforestation which have driven them from their natural habitat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I read a couple of days ago, on international news, that 2, then 5 elephants drowned in Khao Yai Park while trying to save a baby elephant, now it's 11. Guess we'll never know the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, HHTel said: 28 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said: You're the second to mention this. Anyone got a link to this. I missed it. That's a request, not sarcastic comment. This has probably been taken from the original report Quote On Friday October 4, officials herded a large group of wild elephants along Highway No 3077 [leading to Prachi Buri city] back to Khao Yai forest,” he said. “However, early this morning [Saturday], park rangers heard elephants bellowing from the creek leading to the waterfall. The main culprit is deforestation which have driven them from their natural habitat. It does appear that the earlier report of park rangers herding elephants off the highway due to concerns they could cause a traffic accident around 3 A.M. has been missed in the follow up. Haew Narok waterfall is only about 700 meters from the highway. Is 3077 particularly busy overnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Something not quite right about all this... an elephant might stumble and fall at the waterfall, but 10 others falling trying to rescue it, very doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Dukeleto said: Can you supply a link to the source of your side of the story? There was a report after the first elephant drowning that the elephants had been herded away from the Highway 3077. I asked at that time if that could have been the cause of this sad episode. No answer was forthcoming. Perhaps further investigation is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Something not quite right about all this... an elephant might stumble and fall at the waterfall, but 10 others falling trying to rescue it, very doubtful. You don't know your elephants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 "... viewed the danger posed by the falls as beyond anyone’s power to control. “I have therefore ordered the construction of a barricade to prevent wildlife from falling into the waterfall,” he said." Does he not see the irony of his self contradiction in this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Drowning appears the wrong word, did they not fall ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, canopy said: Let's not forget this was no natural tragedy. The elephants did not go to the cliffs willingly and were smart enough to never go there on their own. They were deliberately herded by park rangers and forced to this dangerous point where they were scared and died. Why is no one talking about this? Because Thais and their next-door neighbours, the Lao, never admit they're wrong. They'd lose face....but only amongst themselves. They lack the critical thinking abilities to even wonder whether the rest of the world thinks they're losing face by lying. And that, is the true sadness here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I am no expert and do not claim to be but i read many times different things about this wonderful animal, one is that they are fiercely protective of each other and if as reported a calf slipped over the edge the herd would have gone to its aid, with a calf in tow i do not after reading articles believe you will force a herd to go any way it doesn't want, most people will see this as a tragic accident unless proven other wise, but as we all know it will not be proven other wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Earliest reports mentioned the Elephants had been herded into the park. For some strange reason, there has been no further information provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaksimMislavsky Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 hours ago, canopy said: Let's not forget this was no natural tragedy. The elephants did not go to the cliffs willingly and were smart enough to never go there on their own. They were deliberately herded by park rangers and forced to this dangerous point where they were scared and died. Why is no one talking about this? Wouldn't be so sure about them having been herded by park rangers, but, yes, they should have been prompted by some external influence, indeed. A bunch of elephants are highly unlikely to plunge into ravine with clearly audible whitewater stream in it for no reason on their own accord (or whim?). By the way, the place lived up to its name. Haew Narok = Hell of a Ravine, literally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohn Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 An earlier report which I read suggested that the elephants were driven by park rangers towards the waterfall to stop them wandering onto the road. The priorities are clearly wrong here. The road through Khao Yai is packed with traffic especially on holiday weekends. Perhaps I’m a little old-fashioned but I thought that a “National Park” was meant to be a haven for wildlife but Khao Yai has become little more than a playground for idiotic Bangkok day-trippers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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