AgMech Cowboy Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 9:54 PM, stevenl said: unless Trump holds his promise. He promised to get the US out of Syria... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 3:20 PM, david555 said: Now up to now Trump had my moral support by me as a non American , but this changes my support for the before underdog , as you don't abandon your allies like this ,who did a good job … just my strong opinion Two possibility's : 1) Or he is getting senile or totally frustrated driven by the Democrats 2) Or he is in need for another war to avoid his impeachment ,because that is a possibility if those captured trained Isis fighters break out and re-group , or worse... spread over the west as individual smaller cells The Kurds lost 10.000 lives fighting ISIS - so they are the ones who defeated the Caliphate. With the treatment they've got from Trump, It's doubtful the US, in the future will easily find any local ally to fight again against ISIS if they need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 4:15 PM, puipuitom said: And before the Hmongs in Laos, and the South Vietnamese. And the Montagnard in Cambodia. The US of Lies has a long history of backstabbing its "allies" just as the Kurd have a long history of being betrayed by its allies when its usefulness has ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So …. the weapons merchants can start rubbing their hands ….. very soon ISIS is in force again as more of this shall happen .....and wars can go on and business also https://news.sky.com/story/syria-is-fighters-escape-from-jail-as-130-000-people-flee-turkish-forces-11834146 Syria: '785 IS affiliates escape camp' as 130,000 people flee Turkish forces Turkey says it will continue the offensive into northern Syria for nine more days despite international condemnation. Alix Culbertson News reporter @alixculbertson Sunday 13 October 2019 12:56, UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Osborne Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 6:39 AM, Samui Bodoh said: I can't shake the feeling that Trump's betrayal of the Kurds is directly related to the property/hotel that he owns in Turkey, and I hope that he rots in hell for what he has done. Wow.... your knowledge and insight to geopolitical affairs is impressive .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, William Osborne said: Wow.... your knowledge and insight to geopolitical affairs is impressive .. Your disregard of Trump's obvious conflict of interests is telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 4:23 AM, Opl said: keep it simple, this just proves that beeing a U.S ally in the fight against ISIS in the M.E means nothing. Years of troops in the Middle East, a plethora of US lives lost and billions spent say otherwise and completely drown out your assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Osborne Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Your disregard of Trump's obvious conflict of interests is telling. Ive worked in Kurdistan....Trump is right for pulling troops and let Turkey give themselves enough rope to hang themselves....theyve been sporadically bombing innocent villages in Kurdistan for years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 8:20 AM, david555 said: Now up to now Trump had my moral support by me as a non American , but this changes my support for the before underdog , as you don't abandon your allies like this ,who did a good job … just my strong opinion Two possibility's : 1) Or he is getting senile or totally frustrated driven by the Democrats 2) Or he is in need for another war to avoid his impeachment ,because that is a possibility if those captured trained Isis fighters break out and re-group , or worse... spread over the west as individual smaller cells Option 3: he is making good on a promise to get us out and expects countries in the region to do their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 For the cost of one trip to Mar a Lago, Trump has made the world infinitely less secure, by allowing thousands of IS prisoners to escape. Dumb and dumber. It took years to capture these guys, and this stunningly ignorant fool bows down to Turkey and Shazam. Years of work is undone. He had to have known about this major prison for IS. To not protect this prison over the cost of having a few dozen American specialists there, is beyond reason. He is unbelievably inept. And a coward, who is beyond risk averse. Trump needs to be removed from office asap. He is incredibly dangerous. He is increasingly unstable, and is making very dumb decisions, and avoiding advice from the very minor talent he has assembled from the bottom of the barrel. Lock him up! Want to know how I really feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, david555 said: So …. the weapons merchants can start rubbing their hands ….. very soon ISIS is in force again as more of this shall happen .....and wars can go on and business also https://news.sky.com/story/syria-is-fighters-escape-from-jail-as-130-000-people-flee-turkish-forces-11834146 Syria: '785 IS affiliates escape camp' as 130,000 people flee Turkish forces Turkey says it will continue the offensive into northern Syria for nine more days despite international condemnation. Alix Culbertson News reporter @alixculbertson Sunday 13 October 2019 12:56, UK Don't worry. One of America's best and brightest says that ISIS are the JV team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Option 3: he is making good on a promise to get us out and expects countries in the region to do their part. Ah, that's why the number of troops in the area has increased considerably this year and is still increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: For the cost of one trip to Mar a Lago, Trump has made the world infinitely less secure, by allowing thousands of IS prisoners to escape. Dumb and dumber. It took years to capture these guys, and this stunningly ignorant fool bows down to Turkey and Shazam. Years of work is undone. He had to have known about this major prison for IS. To not protect this prison over the cost of having a few dozen American specialists there, is beyond reason. He is unbelievably inept. And a coward, who is beyond risk averse. Trump needs to be removed from office asap. He is incredibly dangerous. He is increasingly unstable, and is making very dumb decisions, and avoiding advice from the very minor talent he has assembled from the bottom of the barrel. Lock him up! Want to know how I really feel? OK, let's calm down and think this through. We have about 2,000 Special Ops troops acting as ADVISORS. That means OTHER PEOPLE are responsible for keeping prisons secure. Therefore, blaming Trump does not make logical sense. But don't worry: ISIS is the JV team. There's nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. This topic is not about the US troops being sent to Saudi Arabia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: OK, let's calm down and think this through. We have about 2,000 Special Ops troops acting as ADVISORS. That means OTHER PEOPLE are responsible for keeping prisons secure. Therefore, blaming Trump does not make logical sense. But don't worry: ISIS is the JV team. There's nothing to worry about. Yes, other people like the Kurds, who are being slaughtered and run out of the area. They have already declared they will no longer devote their resources to protecting there prisons. One would assume in a rational US administration, where cooler heads prevail, that guarding thousands of IS prisoners that took years to capture would be a priority. But as Trump said, let them flood Europe. Such kindness extended to our allies. Such vision. Such incompetence. Lock Trump up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Yes, other people like the Kurds, who are being slaughtered and run out of the area. They have already declared they will no longer devote their resources to protecting there prisons. One would assume in a rational US administration, where cooler heads prevail, that guarding thousands of IS prisoners that took years to capture would be a priority. But as Trump said, let them flood Europe. Such kindness extended to our allies. Such vision. Such incompetence. Lock Trump up. Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up. How about an entire lifetime of criminal activity? Campaign meddling? Trying to cover up campaign meddling? That is a felony and is obvious to all but his most ardent devotees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Off-topic posts and replies removed. The topic is about the situation in Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, spidermike007 said: How about an entire lifetime of criminal activity? Campaign meddling? Trying to cover up campaign meddling? That is a felony and is obvious to all but his most ardent devotees. Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up. Let's see, how about locking him up for giving aid and comfort to the enemy? In addition to the moral and ethical considerations in causing the death to allies, he has now empowered both Turkey and Russia in genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, Credo said: Let's see, how about locking him up for giving aid and comfort to the enemy? In addition to the moral and ethical considerations in causing the death to allies, he has now empowered both Turkey and Russia in genocide. No, that won't do. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy has to be an overt act, such as providing them with supplies, sustenance or something material. We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, Crazy Alex said: No, that won't do. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy has to be an overt act, such as providing them with supplies, sustenance or something material. We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way. Ya think? Quote Are you happy now, Trump supporters? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/14/are-you-happy-now-trump-supporters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity? It's not a criminal activity but it is a horrible mistake and he has blood on his hands. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/10/14/trumps-retreat-syria-turns-into-mess/ Quote Trump’s retreat in Syria turns into a mess A week ago, President Trump shocked Washington and announced he wouldn’t impede an imminent Turkish invasion of northeastern Syria. Now, in the space of just a few days, his administration is already reaping what it sowed. Turkey’s incursions at various points along its border with Syria began on Wednesday and, by the weekend, had already plunged the region into chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: <snipped> We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way. You seem to forget that the US was there to fight ISIS. We weren't and aren't particularly interested in Syria. We are interested in preventing international terrorism and threats to the US. Do you think this was a good move vis-a-vis ISIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity? It is not. However abandoning the Kurds, after their tremendous sacrifices, of the sort a man like Trump would never be prepared to make, is a moral crime. And even taking a chance on the IS prisoners escaping is another horrific travesty of judgment. Therefore, he needs to be removed before he can do more harm with his extreme incompetence and lack of concern on these areas. So, focus on his crimes to remove him asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 News just in ….. 6.30am Thai time : Trump announces Turkey sanctions after his own party turns on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, steven100 said: News just in ….. 6.30am Thai time : Trump announces Turkey sanctions after his own party turns on him. Sanctions will not even slow down the slaughter of Kurds that is occurring now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 7:32 PM, spidermike007 said: It is not. However abandoning the Kurds, after their tremendous sacrifices, of the sort a man like Trump would never be prepared to make, is a moral crime. And even taking a chance on the IS prisoners escaping is another horrific travesty of judgment. Therefore, he needs to be removed before he can do more harm with his extreme incompetence and lack of concern on these areas. So, focus on his crimes to remove him asap. Committing our troops to a regional regime change war is a moral crime. And don't get your hopes up on impeachment. The minute Democrats vote to impeach, they lose control of the narrative and the rebuttals begin. Democrats have come to love talking about impeachment and that's where it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 11:38 AM, Credo said: You seem to forget that the US was there to fight ISIS. We weren't and aren't particularly interested in Syria. We are interested in preventing international terrorism and threats to the US. Do you think this was a good move vis-a-vis ISIS? Oh sure, the US is great at making excuses to go to war. The fact remains this is a regional regime change war and it's none of our business. We've already had our troops there for years. We've done enough. Time for others to pick up the slack. Haven't we learned anything from Bush's endless wars against countries that were no imminent threat? I know I sure did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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