Turkish warplanes strike northeast, 'huge panic: Kurdish-led SDF

[AgMech Cowboy]

On 10/9/2019 at 9:54 PM, stevenl said:

unless Trump holds his promise.

He promised to get the US out of Syria...

[Opl]

On 10/10/2019 at 3:20 PM, david555 said:

Now up to now Trump had my moral support by me as a non American , but this changes my support for the before underdog  , as you don't abandon your allies like this ,who did a good job …

just my strong opinion 

 

 Two possibility's : 

1) Or he is getting senile or totally frustrated driven by the Democrats

 

2) Or he is in need for another war to avoid his impeachment ,because that is a possibility if those captured trained  Isis fighters break out and re-group , or worse... spread over the west as individual smaller cells 

The Kurds lost 10.000 lives fighting ISIS - so they are the ones who defeated the Caliphate.

With the treatment they've got from Trump, It's doubtful the US, in the future will easily find any local ally to fight again against ISIS if they need it.

  

[ThaiFelix]

On 10/10/2019 at 4:15 PM, puipuitom said:

And before the Hmongs in Laos, and the South Vietnamese.

And the Montagnard in Cambodia. 

 

The US of Lies has a long history of backstabbing its "allies" just as the Kurd have a long history of being betrayed by its allies when its usefulness has ended.

[david555]

So …. the weapons merchants can start rubbing their hands ….. very soon ISIS is in force again as more of this shall happen .....and wars can go on and business also

 

https://news.sky.com/story/syria-is-fighters-escape-from-jail-as-130-000-people-flee-turkish-forces-11834146

Syria: '785 IS affiliates escape camp' as 130,000 people flee Turkish forces

Turkey says it will continue the offensive into northern Syria for nine more days despite international condemnation.

 

Alix Culbertson

News reporter @alixculbertson

 

Sunday 13 October 2019 12:56, UK

[William Osborne]

On 10/10/2019 at 6:39 AM, Samui Bodoh said:

I can't shake the feeling that Trump's betrayal of the Kurds is directly related to the property/hotel that he owns in Turkey, and I hope that he rots in hell for what he has done.

 

Wow.... your knowledge and insight to geopolitical affairs is impressive ..

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, William Osborne said:

Wow.... your knowledge and insight to geopolitical affairs is impressive ..

Your disregard of Trump's obvious conflict of interests is telling.

[Crazy Alex]

On 10/10/2019 at 4:23 AM, Opl said:

keep it simple, this just proves that beeing a U.S ally in the fight against ISIS in the M.E means nothing. 

Years of troops in the Middle East, a plethora of US lives lost and billions spent say otherwise and completely drown out your assertion.

[William Osborne]

9 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Your disregard of Trump's obvious conflict of interests is telling.

Ive worked in Kurdistan....Trump is right for pulling troops and let Turkey give themselves enough rope to hang themselves....theyve been sporadically bombing innocent villages in Kurdistan for years ...

[Crazy Alex]

On 10/10/2019 at 8:20 AM, david555 said:

Now up to now Trump had my moral support by me as a non American , but this changes my support for the before underdog  , as you don't abandon your allies like this ,who did a good job …

just my strong opinion 

 

 Two possibility's : 

1) Or he is getting senile or totally frustrated driven by the Democrats

 

2) Or he is in need for another war to avoid his impeachment ,because that is a possibility if those captured trained  Isis fighters break out and re-group , or worse... spread over the west as individual smaller cells 

Option 3: he is making good on a promise to get us out and expects countries in the region to do their part.

[spidermike007]

For the cost of one trip to Mar a Lago, Trump has made the world infinitely less secure, by allowing thousands of IS prisoners to escape. Dumb and dumber. It took years to capture these guys, and this stunningly ignorant fool bows down to Turkey and Shazam. Years of work is undone. He had to have known about this major prison for IS. To not protect this prison over the cost of having a few dozen American specialists there, is beyond reason. He is unbelievably inept. And a coward, who is beyond risk averse. 

 

Trump needs to be removed from office asap. He is incredibly dangerous. He is increasingly unstable, and is making very dumb decisions, and avoiding advice from the very minor talent he has assembled from the bottom of the barrel. 

 

Lock him up!

 

Want to know how I really feel?

[Crazy Alex]

42 minutes ago, david555 said:

So …. the weapons merchants can start rubbing their hands ….. very soon ISIS is in force again as more of this shall happen .....and wars can go on and business also

 

https://news.sky.com/story/syria-is-fighters-escape-from-jail-as-130-000-people-flee-turkish-forces-11834146

Syria: '785 IS affiliates escape camp' as 130,000 people flee Turkish forces

Turkey says it will continue the offensive into northern Syria for nine more days despite international condemnation.

 

Alix Culbertson

News reporter @alixculbertson

 

Sunday 13 October 2019 12:56, UK

 

Don't worry. One of America's best and brightest says that ISIS are the JV team.

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Option 3: he is making good on a promise to get us out and expects countries in the region to do their part.

Ah, that's why the number of troops in the area has increased considerably this year and is still increasing.

[Crazy Alex]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

For the cost of one trip to Mar a Lago, Trump has made the world infinitely less secure, by allowing thousands of IS prisoners to escape. Dumb and dumber. It took years to capture these guys, and this stunningly ignorant fool bows down to Turkey and Shazam. Years of work is undone. He had to have known about this major prison for IS. To not protect this prison over the cost of having a few dozen American specialists there, is beyond reason. He is unbelievably inept. And a coward, who is beyond risk averse. 

 

Trump needs to be removed from office asap. He is incredibly dangerous. He is increasingly unstable, and is making very dumb decisions, and avoiding advice from the very minor talent he has assembled from the bottom of the barrel. 

 

Lock him up!

 

Want to know how I really feel?

 

OK, let's calm down and think this through. We have about 2,000 Special Ops troops acting as ADVISORS. That means OTHER PEOPLE are responsible for keeping prisons secure. Therefore, blaming Trump does not make logical sense. But don't worry: ISIS is the JV team. There's nothing to worry about.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies have been removed.  This topic is not about the US troops being sent to Saudi Arabia.

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

 

OK, let's calm down and think this through. We have about 2,000 Special Ops troops acting as ADVISORS. That means OTHER PEOPLE are responsible for keeping prisons secure. Therefore, blaming Trump does not make logical sense. But don't worry: ISIS is the JV team. There's nothing to worry about.

Yes, other people like the Kurds, who are being slaughtered and run out of the area. They have already declared they will no longer devote their resources to protecting there prisons. One would assume in a rational US administration, where cooler heads prevail, that guarding thousands of IS prisoners that took years to capture would be a priority. But as Trump said, let them flood Europe. Such kindness extended to our allies. Such vision. Such incompetence. 

 

Lock Trump up. 

[Crazy Alex]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes, other people like the Kurds, who are being slaughtered and run out of the area. They have already declared they will no longer devote their resources to protecting there prisons. One would assume in a rational US administration, where cooler heads prevail, that guarding thousands of IS prisoners that took years to capture would be a priority. But as Trump said, let them flood Europe. Such kindness extended to our allies. Such vision. Such incompetence. 

 

Lock Trump up. 

Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up.

How about an entire lifetime of criminal activity? Campaign meddling? Trying to cover up campaign meddling? That is a felony and is obvious to all but his most ardent devotees. 

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.   The topic is about the situation in Syria.

[Crazy Alex]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

How about an entire lifetime of criminal activity? Campaign meddling? Trying to cover up campaign meddling? That is a felony and is obvious to all but his most ardent devotees. 

Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity?

[Credo]

4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Lock Trump up on what charges, specific charges? Keeping a campaign promise? Nah, that won't work. We've done enough. We've done too much. Syria is a regional conflict. As such, it should be handled by countries in the region. If Europe is in the peril you allege them to be, then Europe can step up.

Let's see, how about locking him up for giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

 

In addition to the moral and ethical considerations in causing the death to allies, he has now empowered both Turkey and Russia in genocide.   

 

 

[Crazy Alex]

Just now, Credo said:

Let's see, how about locking him up for giving aid and comfort to the enemy?

 

In addition to the moral and ethical considerations in causing the death to allies, he has now empowered both Turkey and Russia in genocide.   

 

 

No, that won't do. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy has to be an overt act, such as providing them with supplies, sustenance or something material.

 

We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Crazy Alex said:

No, that won't do. Providing aid and comfort to the enemy has to be an overt act, such as providing them with supplies, sustenance or something material.

 

We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way.

Ya think?

 

Quote

 

Are you happy now, Trump supporters?

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/14/are-you-happy-now-trump-supporters/

[Jingthing]

 

7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity?

It's not a criminal activity but it is a horrible mistake and he has blood on his hands.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/10/14/trumps-retreat-syria-turns-into-mess/

 

Quote

 

Trump’s retreat in Syria turns into a mess

A week ago, President Trump shocked Washington and announced he wouldn’t impede an imminent Turkish invasion of northeastern Syria. Now, in the space of just a few days, his administration is already reaping what it sowed.

Turkey’s incursions at various points along its border with Syria began on Wednesday and, by the weekend, had already plunged the region into chaos.

 

 

[Credo]

44 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

<snipped>

We should have never been in Syria. It's a good thing we're getting out and our troops out of harm's way.

You seem to forget that the US was there to fight ISIS.   We weren't and aren't particularly interested in Syria.   We are interested in preventing international terrorism and threats to the US.   Do you think this was a good move vis-a-vis ISIS?

 

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Let's get back to the actual topic- SYRIA. How is Trump getting us out of Syria a matter of criminal activity?

It is not. However abandoning the Kurds, after their tremendous sacrifices, of the sort a man like Trump would never be prepared to make, is a moral crime. And even taking a chance on the IS prisoners escaping is another horrific travesty of judgment. 

 

Therefore, he needs to be removed before he can do more harm with his extreme incompetence and lack of concern on these areas. So, focus on his crimes to remove him asap. 

[steven100]

News just in ….. 6.30am Thai time :

Trump announces Turkey sanctions after his own party turns on him.

[Credo]

48 minutes ago, steven100 said:

News just in ….. 6.30am Thai time :

Trump announces Turkey sanctions after his own party turns on him.

Sanctions will not even slow down the slaughter of Kurds that is occurring now.

 

[Crazy Alex]

On 10/14/2019 at 7:32 PM, spidermike007 said:

It is not. However abandoning the Kurds, after their tremendous sacrifices, of the sort a man like Trump would never be prepared to make, is a moral crime. And even taking a chance on the IS prisoners escaping is another horrific travesty of judgment. 

 

Therefore, he needs to be removed before he can do more harm with his extreme incompetence and lack of concern on these areas. So, focus on his crimes to remove him asap. 

Committing our troops to a regional regime change war is a moral crime. And don't get your hopes up on impeachment. The minute Democrats vote to impeach, they lose control of the narrative and the rebuttals begin. Democrats have come to love talking about impeachment and that's where it ends.

[Crazy Alex]

On 10/14/2019 at 11:38 AM, Credo said:

You seem to forget that the US was there to fight ISIS.   We weren't and aren't particularly interested in Syria.   We are interested in preventing international terrorism and threats to the US.   Do you think this was a good move vis-a-vis ISIS?

 

Oh sure, the US is great at making excuses to go to war. The fact remains this is a regional regime change war and it's none of our business. We've already had our troops there for years. We've done enough. Time for others to pick up the slack.

 

Haven't we learned anything from Bush's endless wars against countries that were no imminent threat? I know I sure did.

[Scott]

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