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On 10/10/2019 at 6:30 PM, Russell17au said:

If you read "Order of the Royal Thai Police no. 548/2562" you will see printed at the bottom, "This order is effective as of October 31, 2019

Only affects new visas issued after this date, i confirmed this yesterday. My O-A visa expires on 9th Dec 2019 and they told me that provided i  leave the country before that date and return i will be stamped in for another 1 year with NO health insurance requirements.

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3 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

Only affects new visas issued after this date, i confirmed this yesterday. My O-A visa expires on 9th Dec 2019 and they told me that provided i  leave the country before that date and return i will be stamped in for another 1 year with NO health insurance requirements.

Good luck with that. I'm sure every officers understands all the specific details about this these recent changes which is funny considering there is so much debate among those potentially impacted about what this all will mean. Confirmed? Do you have it in writing and guaranteed to be followed later?

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On 10/10/2019 at 6:52 PM, Mark mark said:

This post should be blown up and put on every page of this Blog I think !!! - Thanks !

It has been said over and over, but certain people do not read what is before them.  Only O-A visas are involved.

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13 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

Depends on which visa you have. It only includes those on the O-A  retirement visa.

That is true, yes.

 

However, remember where you are and see what IO do with simple things like the rules regarding seasoning of money - is it 2 months or 3 - the rules are clearly stated and yet, IO's still get it wrong!

 

Now, think about how they can mess this information up in the pursuit of the coveted kickback. 😞

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11 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

Only affects new visas issued after this date, i confirmed this yesterday. My O-A visa expires on 9th Dec 2019 and they told me that provided i  leave the country before that date and return i will be stamped in for another 1 year with NO health insurance requirements.

 

May I ask which office this was? As I am hearing different reports from different places.

 

(though of course what will matter is the IO at the airport or border crossing... We should get a sense of that pretty soon once the 31st arrives)

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On 10/12/2019 at 7:11 AM, Chazar said:

No I dont forget but there are an awful lot of Americans Brits etc thats it  does  affect, feel sorry for their families who will be split  up, I for  one see no future here for me in Thailand despite  owning 7 condos 2 pick ups 3  motorbikes 1  car  2  houses etc  all that will be cleared out and sold and Thailand loses.......in an economy thats already struggling.

Married  to a  Thai 15   years, make s no difference.

The new stupid insurance  will probably tip it for me if expanded ( likely to all non o), i can afford it but its useless in a real emergency, I keep way more than that aside for "what if."

Dont see any reason we cant pay into the Thai system happily  pay more ( but theyd  do that anyway)

Its become a very tiring game they are playing.

Pay into the Thai system at reasonable rates (no private hospitals) sounds a very good idea. If one wants luxury then go the expensive way.

 

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6 hours ago, ourdon said:

 

Being in close to the same boat I sympathize.    I went to the insurance website of the government approved companies.  Two won't insure you after 65, one won't insure you after 70.  One doesn't handle incoming foreigners, just Thai residents outbound. One wouldn't say other than "we have no product available to match your requirements".

 

I found a North American vendor that I'm pondering on.  It will end up costing about 87,000 baht if I take a 22.700 baht deductible. 

 

This isn't an annual price, it is for a five month visit.  I snowbird here for four to five months then about six to nine weeks in Europe and then about five months in Canada.  This is a somewhat unexpected expense and does call for some thought.  

 

it is not clear at this point that foreign policies will be accepted for visa purposes. Still awaiting clarifcation.

 

re the  the "approved" companies in addition to often not covering people past say age 65, most do not guarantee lifetime renewal. So important for people to look at that.

 

One insurer boasts them will insure up to age 80, and apparently they will (if no serious pre-existing conditions) but they will not renew past age 80. in other words they would sell an 80 year old a policy and then refuse to let them renew it. Caveat emptor, be sure to look at provisions on renewals.

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On 10/13/2019 at 8:32 AM, randy723 said:

what is the % of expats here that are over 65 years old? at 65 the premium would be 180,000 per year for the insurance. How many expat would have to leave the country because they are to old to get Insurance?

It would be interesting if someone could answer this question.

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5 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Our bodies have many "systems",  Circulatory (Heart disease/high blood pressure) is only one.

Even if cardiac related diseases are not covered (pre-existing) you may still need medical care for  

  • Digestive system and Excretory system: ...
  • Endocrine system: ...
  • Integumentary system / Exocrine system: ...
  • Immune system and lymphatic system: ...
  • Muscular system: ...
  • Nervous system: ...
  • Renal system and Urinary system.

It seems to be the output of the excretory system that the Thai insurance companies want to make mandatory for over 50 expats.

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45 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So some say. We'll know more starting the beginning of next month. 

If you have doubts, read the police document on the matter.

 

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40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good luck with that. I'm sure every officers understands all the specific details about this these recent changes which is funny considering there is so much debate among those potentially impacted about what this all will mean. Confirmed? Do you have it in writing and guaranteed to be followed later?

Yawnnn .

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40 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

May I ask which office this was? As I am hearing different reports from different places.

 

(though of course what will matter is the IO at the airport or border crossing... We should get a sense of that pretty soon once the 31st arrives)

It was at he main Immigration office on Koh Samui. And the IO in charge was standing behind the lady officer, nodding his head,, adding that i should do it early as if i came back on 10th i would have to have insurance, so he is probably getting all his officers ready for the final date.

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Only affects new visas issued after this date, i confirmed this yesterday. My O-A visa expires on 9th Dec 2019 and they told me that provided i  leave the country before that date and return i will be stamped in for another 1 year with NO health insurance requirements.
Yes, of course it does only affect newly issued visas. How else could there be an annotation regarding insurance from the embassy that issued the visa?
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1 hour ago, nrasmussen said:
7 hours ago, Huckenfell said:
Only affects new visas issued after this date, i confirmed this yesterday. My O-A visa expires on 9th Dec 2019 and they told me that provided i  leave the country before that date and return i will be stamped in for another 1 year with NO health insurance requirements.

Yes, of course it does only affect newly issued visas. How else could there be an annotation regarding insurance from the embassy that issued the visa?

Of course.....Or not! Depend where you are.

Confirmed today by 2 immigration officers at the counter 8 retirement extensions in Jomtiem

if you ask a 1 year extension of stay based on retirement and if you have had initialy an OA visa

included 3, 4 or 6 years ago, you need to provide the health insurance. It's the way they understand 

the new rule.

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