Pravda Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yesterday I was reading all the rants about the new insurance requirements and one post stuck with me.... An older gentlemen saying he was leaving Thailand and was hoping the Thai government will take care of his wife as well as he did. Of course, many posters suggested that he was lowest of the low. However, after decades of Farang supporting Thai wives, families, brothers and buffaloes, you'd expect that there would be some organized movement from these "families" that would make married guys in Thailand life a little easier. Just one person out of those millions could have gone and raised an issue to get at least some discussion going.... like in the case with TM30, but no one seems to care ???? So, why are you still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 They are not coming for me yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robblok Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I like it in this country and I don't think this country owns me anything. You chose to take care of your wife (or that guy did) Nobody forced you why would Thailand own you anything. I already got health insurance seems like a logical thing to do in this country. Its because of people defaulting and flaunting the rules that things get harder yet you see people advocating for it all the time. The only thing i think is crazy is the 40k outpatient thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Pravda said: So, why are you still here? I'm 64, not enough time left to make it worth moving. Still considering France though, all depends on Brexit not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 too much pain to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto1956 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Im not im in the Philippeans 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Simple. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. When you have commitments here such as a family you have adapt and make sacrifices during the hard times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Spare a thought for the guy that has to leave. Imagine the pain and suffering he is going through. He made a life here, has his loved ones here, and through no real fault of his own, the changes in regs, the collapse in currency, unable to work being elderly etc, then forced to go back to a country where he possibly knows no one and has to rely on welfare, say goodbye to everything he knows and has built. There but for the grace of God . And for those that can remain, that have that financial security, enjoy it as you don't know what is around the corner and when it might be your turn. Anyone facing that dreadful reality and those very hard decisions, I wish you all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 because Thailand isn't getting Islamized like the West happy to do TM30s/90-days/Health Insurance as long as it stays this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 56 minutes ago, Pravda said: So, why are you still here? I'm still earning a ship load of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, Pravda said: However, after decades of Farang supporting Thai wives, families, brothers and buffaloes, you'd expect that there would be some organized movement from these "families" that would make married guys in Thailand life a little easier. Good point but has no meaning to these people, the same as people that have paid high taxes here for many years....no meaning to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: because Thailand isn't getting Islamized like the West happy to do TM30s/90-days/Health Insurance as long as it stays this way The day might come when you are too old to get health insurance. That could mean that you will be forced to leave Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, pluto1956 said: Im not im in the Philippeans 555 where IS THIS country??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOFphon Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I'm still here for the women. Late 60's now and my girlfriend is 35....Where else can an old man find this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pravda said: So, why are you still here? Because I don't care. (must be turning Thai) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Firstly, my next extension is not until mid 2020 so presumably by then it will be clearer about how they will enforce the insurance requirement. Currently I self-insure and have more than enough assets to continue to do so for life. If forced to insure, most of my pre-existing medical problems will not be covered. My age will dictate high premiums for little benefit and I will greatly resent this forced theft of my hard earned retirement funds. However, my age and medical problems combined with the familial roots I've established here would make moving to a third country beyond difficult. Going back to my home country and starting over is not even a consideration. The reasons for my leaving there 10 years ago have only become more evident and I now have fewer living friends and relatives for social support. If forced to buy useless insurance, I will just have to bend over and take it. The missus, and many of her family, will be unhappy with a reduction in the free money they receive, but as long as the hospitals get their petty debts paid and the corrupt Insurance companies reap the rewards all will continue to be Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Pravda said: So, why are you still here? No reason to go anywhere else and don't understand the old guy problem you mention whose married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 A troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, JohnOFphon said: I'm still here for the women. Late 60's now and my girlfriend is 35....Where else can an old man find this? Pretty sure all countries on the planet have sugar daddies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 because drinking p iss all day and bang bom bang every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, RichardColeman said: Pretty sure all countries on the planet have sugar daddies ! And price accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I'm 55 , my wife 41. We have an adopted Thai daughter (3 years). I own a house (paid off) in the UK I rent out and have an early pension too. If I could get paperwork done today for daughter, sell my house and find a bigger house up north for 1/2 the cost, get the visas based on money in the bank, we'd be off by the end of the week. So a case of having to be here currently, not necessarily wanting to be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Because I have family here. Because I knew the rules before I decided to move and work here 30 years ago. Because I knew the rules before I decided to remain here once I retired from work earlier this year. Because the recent "drastic" changes to those rules didn't affect me one bit. Because I am free to do what I like. Because I don't have to pay tax on my investments out of the country, saving me far, far more each year than the measly 800,000 I keep in my bank for my retirement visa. Because I am happy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, CharlieH said: Spare a thought for the guy that has to leave. Imagine the pain and suffering he is going through. He made a life here, has his loved ones here, and through no real fault of his own, the changes in regs, the collapse in currency, unable to work being elderly etc, then forced to go back to a country where he possibly knows no one and has to rely on welfare, say goodbye to everything he knows and has built. There but for the grace of God . And for those that can remain, that have that financial security, enjoy it as you don't know what is around the corner and when it might be your turn. Anyone facing that dreadful reality and those very hard decisions, I wish you all the best. With the greatest respect-I don't think that it is always this way. An "up and out" from Thailand is not the end of the world and can,in fact,lead to bigger and better things.. In my wife's case it has lead to a small (but prosperous) business,many friends,hope for the future,citizenship in the offing and the prospect of bringing her daughter to my country as well. On my birthday there will be at least a half dozen Aussie/Thai couples as well as my Aussie friends. I note with interest the amount of vicious attacks on this forum against those who have successfully transitioned back to the West. In actual fact-I generally show these posts to any prospective Thailand re-locators- and ask (rhetorically) "Do you really want to be with such people?" The answer,in my case,was no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, cyril sneer said: because Thailand isn't getting Islamized like the West happy to do TM30s/90-days/Health Insurance as long as it stays this way Oh for God's Allah's sakes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, JohnOFphon said: I'm still here for the women. Late 60's now and my girlfriend is 35....Where else can an old man find this? Prostitution is available in most countries, or does she keep you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonseeker Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Missed the jump-off point to leave. 10 years ago. Now blocked with investments, responsibilities to family & staff & terminally ill. Biggest regret ever, not having packed up and checked out the world a bit more while I still could. Now limited to surfing the world by YouTube. Still kicking! MS> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, CharlieH said: Spare a thought for the guy that has to leave. Imagine the pain and suffering he is going through. He made a life here, has his loved ones here, and through no real fault of his own, the changes in regs, the collapse in currency, unable to work being elderly etc, then forced to go back to a country where he possibly knows no one and has to rely on welfare, say goodbye to everything he knows and has built. There but for the grace of God . And for those that can remain, that have that financial security, enjoy it as you don't know what is around the corner and when it might be your turn. Anyone facing that dreadful reality and those very hard decisions, I wish you all the best. Ok, but why would he have to leave now? I understand that it must be hard to not have any options and have to leave, but still there are options. he could still get a NON-0 Multi in Savannakhet bases on marriage without financial proof and no need of health insurance. I guess he is just fed up, but he still have options and is not forced to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, Old Croc said: Firstly, my next extension is not until mid 2020 so presumably by then it will be clearer about how they will enforce the insurance requirement. Currently I self-insure and have more than enough assets to continue to do so for life. If forced to insure, most of my pre-existing medical problems will not be covered. My age will dictate high premiums for little benefit and I will greatly resent this forced theft of my hard earned retirement funds. However, my age and medical problems combined with the familial roots I've established here would make moving to a third country beyond difficult. Going back to my home country and starting over is not even a consideration. The reasons for my leaving there 10 years ago have only become more evident and I now have fewer living friends and relatives for social support. If forced to buy useless insurance, I will just have to bend over and take it. The missus, and many of her family, will be unhappy with a reduction in the free money they receive, but as long as the hospitals get their petty debts paid and the corrupt Insurance companies reap the rewards all will continue to be Thai. An elderly acquaintance of myself and a friend living in Pattaya was faced with financial and health issues that would have meant him having to go back to the UK. Instead he jumped off his 7th floor balcony. It was in the news at the time and this was before all these visa and insurance regulations were on the cards. You know who were up in his room with a locksmith while his corpse was still getting cold on the concrete. So don't expect much sympathy from the Thai government. He was single but sadly more fellows may take the same way out in the near future and they may have wives and children who genuinely depend upon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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