Jump to content
BANGKOK
WeekendRaider

US social security how to begin?

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

thanks for the great information, since I don't have a US bank account nor do I have an address there as well, it appears my best option is to apply with Manilla, do you know if applying with Manilla it's only by phone, not by email. My SS account doesn't have any address, I wanted to update my address but when reading their FAQ it says that an address is not required and one is not obligated to change his/hers address. I couldn't find any details about the required documents to apply for the retirement, besides my SS# and ID what else they will be asking. is there a list somewhere, thanks again

I would just email Manila saying your want to start the application process/schedule a telephone interview.  In the email include your full name, SSAN, address, phone number, date of birth, email address, and when you want your benefit to begin.  You can apply up to 4 early before your requested "benefits begin date."   For example: say you want your benefit begin date to be 1 Jan 2020 which means your first payment would arrive 3 Feb 2020...well, you can apply up to 4 months before that 1 Jan 2020 date which would be 1 Sep 2019.

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/applying3.html

 

  It will probably take Manial a couple of weeks to get back to you....responses from Manila can be slow.  Or you could give them call during the two days/limited hours they accept calls per their website.  I would go the email method.  Up to you. 

 

Good luck....welcome to ol' geezer club. 😉    

Share this post


Link to post

You can apply online and in the course of processing you'll get a call from Manila, at least I did.

If the main application form doesn't allow for IDD to a foreign bankthete is a separate IDD form that does.

Manila can be slow so if it were me I'd start the pricess first online.

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

Share this post


Link to post
2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

You can apply online and in the course of processing you'll get a call from Manila, at least I did.

If the main application form doesn't allow for IDD to a foreign bankthete is a separate IDD form that does.

Manila can be slow so if it were me I'd start the pricess first online.

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

thanks, last year, May 18, send them an email asking for information.... am still waiting for an answer

Share this post


Link to post
16 hours ago, Pib said:

I would just email Manila saying your want to start the application process/schedule a telephone interview.  In the email include your full name, SSAN, address, phone number, date of birth, email address, and when you want your benefit to begin.  You can apply up to 4 early before your requested "benefits begin date."   For example: say you want your benefit begin date to be 1 Jan 2020 which means your first payment would arrive 3 Feb 2020...well, you can apply up to 4 months before that 1 Jan 2020 date which would be 1 Sep 2019.

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/applying3.html

 

  It will probably take Manial a couple of weeks to get back to you....responses from Manila can be slow.  Or you could give them call during the two days/limited hours they accept calls per their website.  I would go the email method.  Up to you. 

 

Good luck....welcome to ol' geezer club. 😉    

thanks a million, I did follow your advise and send an e-mail, it says that I should have an answer within 10 days.... last year, May 18, did contacted them and also received the same 10 days period to receive an answer.....am still waiting, going to try the on line application and see how it works out with the banking issue, @Sheryl said there is a different form for the bank

 

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

You can apply online and in the course of processing you'll get a call from Manila, at least I did.

If the main application form doesn't allow for IDD to a foreign bankthete is a separate IDD form that does.

Manila can be slow so if it were me I'd start the pricess first online.

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

sorry forgot to ask, where do I get the different form, my bank is in Thailand

Share this post


Link to post
2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

You can apply online and in the course of processing you'll get a call from Manila, at least I did.

If the main application form doesn't allow for IDD to a foreign bankthete is a separate IDD form that does.

Manila can be slow so if it were me I'd start the pricess first online.

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

sorry forgot to ask, where do I get the different form, my bank is in Thailand

Share this post


Link to post
6 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

The form has been posted before in this forum sre if you can find thread about SS IDD

Sent from my SM-J701F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

I do have the form.... can I add it to the on line application when filling it

Share this post


Link to post
3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

I do have the form.... can I add it to the on line application when filling it

 

You can email it to Manila

 

They seem to respond better when given forms etc than to text inquiries

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
10 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

You can email it to Manila

 

They seem to respond better when given forms etc than to text inquiries

ok, thks will send it there but to whom, sure they must receive 1,000's of forms, wonder how they will know what is what and to whom assign it....but worth a try

Share this post


Link to post
58 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

ok, thks will send it there but to whom, sure they must receive 1,000's of forms, wonder how they will know what is what and to whom assign it....but worth a try

Review the Manila SSA Office weblink I gave in post #14.  It has their mailing and email addresses. 

 

You don't need to know who you are assigned to as that changes approx every year as Manila rotates SSAN assignments among their staff approx very year.

 

The direct deposit form has your SSAN and name on it....that's the only two things needed to ensure it gets to the right person within the Manila office.    You can also scan and email form to Manila.   Or if dealing with Bangkok Bank they will mail/email it for you.   Earlier in the year the wife change from the regular ACH direct deposit to the IDD direct deposit.....we just scanned and emailed the form to Manila.

 

If you decide to apply using the Manila telephone interview process then Manila will also ask for your email address and use that to do some correspondence with you "if that's what you want."

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
1 minute ago, Pib said:

Review the Manila SSA Office weblink I gave in post #14.  It has their mailing and email addresses. 

 

You don't need to know who you are assigned to as that changes approx every year as Manila rotates SSAN assignments among their staff approx very year.

 

The direct deposit form has your SSAN and name on it....that's the only two things needed to ensure it gets to the right person within the Manila office.    You can also scan and email form to Manila.   Or if dealing with Bangkok Bank they will mail/email it for you.   Earlier in the year the wife change from the regular ACH direct deposit to the IDD direct deposit.....we just scanned and emailed the form to Manila.

 

If you decide to apply using the Manila telephone interview process then Manila will also ask for your email address and use that to do some correspondence with you "if that's what you want."

 

 

You guys are great, really appreciate, I do use BBank and will ask them to fill up the form ( you send me a link before and I downloaded it already) 2 days ago also send email to Manilla, let's see how it goes

Share this post


Link to post

So, which direct deposit method are you going with?   The ACH method that uses the SF-1199A form or the IDD method that uses the SSA-1199-OP-107 form.

 

Keep in mind if using the SF-1199A which means the funds will be transmitted via the ACH system that only Bangkok Bank can be used and you must have a special direct deposit acct with them which has restrictions such as no debit card, no online transfers/withdrawals, and you must physically visit any Bangkok Bank branch to withdraw/transfer funds.

 

But if using the SSA-1199-OP107 form the funds are transmitted via the SWIFT system which means you can have the funds direct deposited to "any" Thai bank and to a Thai baht regular savings acct with no restrictions....have debit card....can do online transfers....no restrictions like the Bangkok Bank direct deposit account has.

 

But if you are using the "monthly income" method with immigration for an annual extension of stay please note your SSA direct deposit sent via IDD SWIFT will be passbook coded as "Bahtnet" which means the last leg of the transfer was a domestic transfer/relay although it's still really from overseas which you can get a Credit Advice if needed to prove so.    However if using the ACH method for direct deposit it will reflect be passbook coded as an "International Transfer."

 

Now if by chance you already have a Bangkok Bank special direct deposit acct used for another US govt pension even if you use the IDD SWIFT method once the funds enter that restricted acct you have the associated restrictions.   If your current Bangkok Bank acct is a regular savings acct then any funds that flow into it have no restrictions.

 

 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
31 minutes ago, Pib said:

So, which direct deposit method are you going with?   The ACH method that uses the SF-1199A form or the IDD method that uses the SSA-1199-OP-107 form.

 

Keep in mind if using the SF-1199A which means the funds will be transmitted via the ACH system that only Bangkok Bank can be used and you must have a special direct deposit acct with them which has restrictions such as no debit card, no online transfers/withdrawals, and you must physically visit any Bangkok Bank branch to withdraw/transfer funds.

 

But if using the SSA-1199-OP107 form the funds are transmitted via the SWIFT system which means you can have the funds direct deposited to "any" Thai bank and to a Thai baht regular savings acct with no restrictions....have debit card....can do online transfers....no restrictions like the Bangkok Bank direct deposit account has.

 

But if you are using the "monthly income" method with immigration for an annual extension of stay please note your SSA direct deposit sent via IDD SWIFT will be passbook coded as "Bahtnet" which means the last leg of the transfer was a domestic transfer/relay although it's still really from overseas which you can get a Credit Advice if needed to prove so.    However if using the ACH method for direct deposit it will reflect be passbook coded as an "International Transfer."

 

Now if by chance you already have a Bangkok Bank special direct deposit acct used for another US govt pension even if you use the IDD SWIFT method once the funds enter that restricted acct you have the associated restrictions.   If your current Bangkok Bank acct is a regular savings acct then any funds that flow into it have no restrictions.

 

 

I am going for the Form SSA-1199-OP107 (02-2019) Discontinue Prior Editions Social Security Administration  IDD/SWIFT savings account deposit, easy way it appears and no need the proof of income. have been using the fixed deposit option, let's see until when

Share this post


Link to post
On 10/14/2019 at 1:20 PM, dotpoom said:

Why does the Phillipines come into it...no explaination of it in the OP ?

Because of past ties between countries, former military bases, large number of Filipino worked in US and military and returned to RP. Decades past due to Vietnam and Pac Rim presence many military dead enders retired in RP.

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...