Popular Post rott Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 No further comment from the OP, after that lengthy post I am surprised he is not showing more interest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgw Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, rott said: No further comment from the OP, after that lengthy post I am surprised he is not showing more interest. maybe he is taking another 7-year break from posting 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, rott said: Please give details of minimal wage. Starting salary is minimum wage. Captain is about 25000. this is wages for police , do not see immigration having much different. to get to the rank of captain will take a decade, to fast track would need very powerful relative or a very large payment So on average I would say 15000-20000 per month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: Personally , I have no problem with IO turning people away at their discretion , what I do have a problem with is how they do it and with which manner. they rude, obnoxious , arrogant and ignorant. yes they have the right to refuse anyone , but does not mean they have the right to degrade people. yes they have the right to question , but do not have the right to intimidate and be rude about it. yes they have the right to detain, but in decent conditions and finally , why there is no easy and open process to appeal your case on the spot like in every other country to a well spoken officer who can speak language is way beyond my understanding. And not charge the detainee good money for their incarnation and start slamming their fists on the table should they refuse to cough up for their own imprisonment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tabarin Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: You can thanks all those digital nomads who have been taking the <deleted> all that time. Anytime you write something, it is BS, you must be very sour and bored. Now you want to blame digital nomads for this? Most of them didn't even spend more than 6 months to a year in the country, while being within the board, 2x tourist visa per year + extension and 2x border run + extension. Others studied Thai, do go to classes as well but most I know, spend both time in Bali, Vietnam and here, never even encounter the entire issue. I actually most times called them out for being too scared, as they follow the rules religiously. Most people I meet that DO encounter issues, are not digital nomads and between the age of 35-49 (or older but not meeting retirement requirements). Anyway, get a life dude. Edited October 10, 2019 by tabarin 5 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whitemouse Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 hours ago, phuketrichard said: I see NO MENTION of how many visas, visa exempts the OP had previous to the original denial. without this info, we cant make a decision if he was unlucky or he F#@ked up and has been scamming the system for years OP's visa and entry history does not matter, unless he has over stayed in Thailand, and unless he has criminal record in Thailand, and has been banned from entering. Law does not restrict the number of entries via airport. He was denied entry because someone abused their position, and possibly broke a law. There is no law that prevented him entering Thailand, there is only lawlessness and corruption. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, whitemouse said: OP's visa and entry history does not matter, unless he has over stayed in Thailand, and unless he has criminal record in Thailand, and has been banned from entering. Law does not restrict the number of entries via airport. He was denied entry because someone abused their position, and possibly broke a law. There is no law that prevented him entering Thailand, there is only lawlessness and corruption. OP said they stated he was looking for work. What is wrong with looking for work? So what if he was flying in for job interview ? I think what they meant was they believed he was working 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whitemouse Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Unbelievable situation. It really does appear the at"IO discretion" part of their role, should be removed and retraining needs to occur for all staff on the LAW. Again it is proof of Thailand being 3rd world in administration Exactly! It is so clear that humans here can't be trusted with this job, clearly too much power is handed to them, they are unable to resist sweet smell of power, happy to ruin someone's trip. No doubt highlight of their day, nice distraction from seeing all the happy tourist, heading to the beach, while they are sitting in glass box, day in, day out. Must be painful! Do you think the day will come when entries are processed by computers, simple face and document scan? Seems it would the only way to have law and order prevail. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmen Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Syduan said: I have a girlfriend of over ten years who is suffering with an illness at the moment, awwww really tugs at the heart strings. A fitting end to a piece of pure fiction ☺ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whitemouse Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 hours ago, sallecc said: In Hong Kong they have 180 days / year rule (unwritten, like in Thailand), but they are fair enough to give 7-day entry stamp for people to pick up their stuff, no need to treat them like criminals... Canadian can spend 6 months in USA, if he/she stayed 9 months, then stopped by police officer for some reason (unless commuting crime, this never happens, Canadian is not required to carry a passport), nothing will happen, no arrest. In Thailand, stopped by police and passport checked, if 2 days over the stamp, immidiate arrest, and driven to Immigration Detention centre in Bangkok. Then detained until Canadian finds the means to buy a airline ticket to Canada. No picking up his belongings, treated like an inmate. We are so used to it, we think it is normal, It is not, it is brutal. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, whitemouse said: Exactly! It is so clear that humans here can't be trusted with this job, clearly too much power is handed to them, they are unable to resist sweet smell of power, happy to ruin someone's trip. No doubt highlight of their day, nice distraction from seeing all the happy tourist, heading to the beach, while they are sitting in glass box, day in, day out. Must be painful! Do you think the day will come when entries are processed by computers, simple face and document scan? Seems it would the only way to have law and order prevail. I remember being grilled upon arrival at my native Newcastle (UK) airport a couple of years ago, by a female border guard who didn't seem to like the look of me. By God it felt great to tell her to mind her own business, that I was a British citizen entering Britain on a valid British pssport. Get stuffed or call the actual Police if you have a problem. Thought not. So get stuffed. Just an aside. I hope the moderator allows my post to stand. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whitemouse Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 hours ago, onera1961 said: Nothing criminal. In every country IOs have power to refuse entry for any reason, right or wrong. Not at all. In many countries Immigration Officer has to follow law. Thailand is not one of these countries. In European Union, Australia, North America immigration officer has to follow law. I'm surprised this is news to some, but staying in lawless country, one forgets how law works. 6 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitemouse Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: These stories are only about people who refuse to get the proper visa and think the rules don't apply to them. No proper news outlet is interested in these self inflicted problems. What is a proper visa for a tourist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 hours ago, JimmyJ said: I was planning to write the same message. These stories need to be posted not only on TVF but on Tripadvisor.com, and all the similar sites. The OP just needs to cut and paste what he's written, and post it to numerous forums. If all the people who have posted these horror stories here also posted them on these sites, there would be a lot of pressure on Thailand by now to loosen up or realize that their tourism will be hurt by these stories. I agree. With the 'face' thing it might actually lead to changes over time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, yogi100 said: My chum was a tourist. They wanted to refuse him entry. I was worried of getting refused very recently. - Approaching the counter, there was a supervising IO standing ready to lead me away. (I was one of only few Caucasians at that time.) What saved me was the IOs closer look at my passport (seeing either my nationality, or age). Make no mistake; due to this experience, watching IO and supervisor interact, I am certain that there is a 'quota' they have to fill. Edited October 10, 2019 by StayinThailand2much 3 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 If the OP's post is genuine, and I suspect that it is, I'm left with the feeling that the IO was hoping to be made an offer to make the problem go away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SpanishExpat Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) Whether it`s a real story or not. Been to Padang Besar 3 weeks ago. Caucasians have to wait anyway and have to go to a separate room. So NO FARANG is directly serviced at the counters when you enter. Everyone spoke at least basic English, whereas the IO for the Caucasians understood everything. Overall they were friendly to me. Moreover, the border crossing if you arrive by foot is a small separate building. Don`t know where the OP found the Malaysian police officer, as I doubt they let them enter in the small building (which already belongs to Thailand) After getting stamped out in Malaysia, one has to walk 500 m trough no mans land. Those were just my experiences at Padang Besar...so there are some details in his story which don`t make sense. Edited October 10, 2019 by SpanishExpat 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 The guy was picked up on a Friday, the British embassy in Bkk is closed until Monday, what he got was the help line from the embassy which is the Foreign office in London. Simple, no mystery there...... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 10 hours ago, SteveK said: I agree, if this story was fully genuine and he had done no wrong, he shouldn't be concerned but it does seem that there are some holes in the story. It should be criminal for them to refuse you entry on not having sufficient funds when you have 20k in your wallet and a Thai bank book with you. Why don't they have another reason for refusal such as "person attempted to enter on incorrect visa type", rather than using the same old insufficient funds as a catch all to deny anyone? I know this guy and have seen his bank book, 59,000 bht on the 7th of June...... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SpanishExpat said: Whether it`s a real story or not. Been to Padang Besar 3 weeks ago. Caucasians have to wait anyway and have to go to a separate room. So NO FARANG is directly serviced at the counters when you enter. Everyone spoke at least basic English, whereas the IO for the Caucasians understood everything. Overall they were friendly to me. Moreover, the border crossing if you arrive by foot is a small separate building. Don`t know where the OP found the Malaysian police officer, as I doubt they let them enter in the small building (which already belongs to Thailand) After getting stamped out in Malaysia, one has to walk 500 m trough no mans land. Those were just my experiences at Padang Besar...so there are some details in his story which don`t make sense. Wrong, there's actually two Pedang Besars, there's a Malay one and a Thai one just up the line. On the Malay one the police carry weapons, not something the Thais would be happy with. 500m ? You'd be lucky if it was fifty feet ! Been going through there for years..........Details,details...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 hours ago, TheMysteriousMrTesla said: Not doubting the story, but why would there be a British Embassy in London. The embassy in Bkk is closed from Friday to Monday, what the guy got was the Foreign office help line in London.......Mystery cleared up....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 hours ago, TheMysteriousMrTesla said: Not doubting the story, but why would there be a British Embassy in London. Foreign office helpline as the embassy is closed from Friday to Monday......picky picky..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 hours ago, TheMysteriousMrTesla said: Not doubting the story, but why would there be a British Embassy in London. Foreign office helpline, the back up for the British embassy in Bkk when it's closed from Friday to Monday....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron jeremy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Thailand, what a wonderful place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hackney35 Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 11 hours ago, madmen said: Your talking anonymous posters .Anybody can say what the want and trolls on TV are a dime a dozen..so how do you expect newspapers to buy it? Not saying it didn't happen but no way to prove it There is no way the OP is making that story up. He comes across as articulate and honest. His story sucks and reinforces my view that Thailand is increasingly becoming a basket case that will have a huge crash particularly in terms of condo prices and GDP similar to 1997. (And no not because of immigration policies but due to a completely inept government and a lazy uneducated unproductive workforce) 5 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 12 hours ago, madmen said: It shouldn't make a difference but did you angry and start yelling? Its just that there appears like part of the story is missing I would like to know what visa the OP was using on arrival, or was it an attempt to get a 30 day exempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 12 hours ago, scottiejohn said: Also as Post 5 asks. How can you call a British Embassy in London? If I recall correctly, when you call the Bangkok one out of hours, you are given a number in the UK to call. Obviously not an Embassy but likely the ministry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 10 hours ago, SteveK said: Maybe not found a potential wife yet, not old enough to retire, not enough money for Elite, and no degree for a non-B and work permit? I think that would cover a lot of people who are trying to stay long term on tourist visas. Read the OP, he is 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Syduan said: I'm a Engineering consultant, i'm 53 years old, and I've been traveling internationally for thirty years now to all corners of the globe, and I can honestly say that I've never seen anything like this in all those years, or being treat as disgustingly. What I don't understand , if you do not work in Thailand, why didn't you just apply for a visa based on retirement when you turned 50 ? That's the first thing I did and I can come and go as I please, with a re-entry stamp. If you don't want to follow the 800k requirements in the bank here , you can use an agent and get away with a 20k yearly fee. So there are many alternatives for us over 50, even if you work in other countries. I work as a freelancer myself but my income is outside of Thailand. So a 1 year retirement visa would work very well in your situation and you would have avoided all this mess! Maybe they would still ask you questions at immigration, but they don't really care about travellers on a retirement visa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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