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5 hours ago, MattDM said:

Didn't count really the days in 2018. Two SETV's with extension plus about 5 weeks of the start of the METV

 

6 hours ago, MattDM said:

I was in Thailand during 2019 for 6 months, less about 3 weeks for the trips to Singapore, Malaysia, Myanmar and Vietnam

With that history there was always a high risk they wouldn't let you in this time, especially coming in at BKK. There's obviously something pretty wrong with a system that takes money off you for a visa and then doesn't let you in. Did Hull give you any kind of warning that this might happen?

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Just spent the day conversing with a friend of mine who was in the BKK detention centre all day and night.   He flew in on only his second METV from London and had spent the last 2-3 months

I think the key point which you have mentioned is that he spent 8-9 months of the last year in Thailand, on tourist visas. People have been refused entry after having spent less time in the country. O

The OP to this post is correct. I know this because I AM THE PERSON THIS HAPPENED TO. The OP is a good friend of mine who put this up while I was pretty much on the plane back.   The story;

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6 hours ago, Tuvoc said:

I'm retiring to Thailand late next year, joining my wife who went ahead of me at the end of last year. So for about two years in the interim I'll be making 4 x trips a year for 2 weeks each, on visa exempt. The address on the TM6 won't be a hotel but will be a residential address. I'm getting worried now that the residential address will create problems and they will think I'm living in Thailand. Any advice ? In this calendar year I've been once, 4 weeks in July/August. Or am I concerned about nothing...

Some people are thinking twice about even holidaying in Thailand.

 

Let alone retiring there!

 

In the last few years there have been just too many negative developments to consider. Visas, insurance, poor exchange rates worsening attitudes etc.

 

Unless of course you don't seek a stress free retirement. In which case go for it!

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2 minutes ago, OJAS said:

If the word were to get about in the airline industry that, even those with valid visas were being denied entry into Thailand, the requirement to sign such disclaimers before being permitted to board flights to Thailand could conceivably become a matter of routine for all and sundry at airports of origin.

Of course. It is not the airline's responsibility. A visa isn't a guarantee to enter any country. And it will make the visa holder think seriously about the risks of travel.

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2 minutes ago, Martyp said:

Of course. It is not the airline's responsibility. A visa isn't a guarantee to enter any country. And it will make the visa holder think seriously about the risks of travel.

As you say, a visa doesn't guarantee entry anywhere, but if this is a particular issue with regard to Thailand, then airlines will surely not view with ecstatic joy the prospect of having to bear the cost of flying those denied entry at BKK or wherever back to their airport of origin, will they?

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15 minutes ago, OJAS said:

If the word were to get about in the airline industry that, even those with valid visas were being denied entry into Thailand, the requirement to sign such disclaimers before being permitted to board flights to Thailand could conceivably become a matter of routine for all non-Thai nationals at airports of origin, regardless of their immigration status.

Was also grilled a little bit by AA in Chicago at the gate before boarding JAL, that was 2017..she was confused about the four year old visa, and the extensions, but took my word for it.  Seemed like the stories were circulating.  Impossible for them to be familiar with the countless possibilities for different visa scenarios.  Seems like airport employees are the lowest of the low nowadays.  They discovered a Somali war criminal working security at IAD.. probably couldn't get hired by fast food. 

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14 minutes ago, OJAS said:

As you say, a visa doesn't guarantee entry anywhere, but if this is a particular issue with regard to Thailand, then airlines will surely not view with ecstatic joy the prospect of having to bear the cost of flying those denied entry at BKK or wherever back to their airport of origin, will they?

Hence the prospect of airlines asking those flying to Thailand to sign a document saying they will pay for their way back.

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26 minutes ago, Martyp said:

Of course. It is not the airline's responsibility. A visa isn't a guarantee to enter any country. And it will make the visa holder think seriously about the risks of travel.

Not a cast-iron guarantee, no. But the expectation is and should be that the chances of refusal of entry are slim indeed.

The airline flying you to Thailand could not absolve it's responsibility for ensuring their planes are airworthy by arguing that passengers know travelling carries risks.

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9 minutes ago, Martyp said:

Hence the prospect of airlines asking those flying to Thailand to sign a document saying they will pay for their way back.

 Will that be when you buy your ticket which would be fair enough as long as it's not in the small print. 

 

Or when you board the plane by which time you'd have forked out the money for the flight. Which could cause you to ask if they know something you're unaware of.

 

Not all people who travel to the Land Of Scams know about this latest obstacle.

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35 minutes ago, moontang said:

Seems like airport employees are the lowest of the low nowadays.  They discovered a Somali war criminal working security at IAD.. probably couldn't get hired by fast food. 

Been going on a long time some years ago I had a problem at the old DM my flight from BKK to Dubai with a UK passport at check in the girl said you cannot board no visa, I dont need a visa to go to Dubai, yes you do she insisted ok get the manager to sort this out, she lost big face and the <deleted> behind me telling me to move away she already tell you, you need visa, you can <deleted> right off

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The grilling seems to be an Anglo-Saxon thing. I was only grilled coming back to my home country Canada and when visiting the UK and Australia. They are very strategic in their questioning and study your reactions. 

 

Sure I was grilled once in Thailand but they don't seems to listen or understand your reply. Their decision is already sealed before they start the talking. 

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28 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

The grilling seems to be an Anglo-Saxon thing. I was only grilled coming back to my home country Canada and when visiting the UK and Australia. They are very strategic in their questioning and study your reactions. 

 

Sure I was grilled once in Thailand but they don't seems to listen or understand your reply. Their decision is already sealed before they start the talking. 

Seeing as your home country is, I believe, France, you might be interested to learn that I received quite a grilling at CDG Airport last July before being permitted to board my return flight to BKK (after visiting my sister who lives in Paris), despite the existence of a re-entry permit in my (British) passport!

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