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Refused Entry in BKK - Second METV - Deported back to London

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15 minutes ago, OJAS said:

Seeing as your home country is, I believe, France, you might be interested to learn that I received quite a grilling at CDG Airport last July before being permitted to board my return flight to BKK (after visiting my sister who lives in Paris), despite the existence of a re-entry permit in my (British) passport!

I speak French but I'm from Canada. I never had issue at border control except the country I mentioned. However only Thailand ever denied me entry. 

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4 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

I speak French but I'm from Canada. I never had issue at border control except the country I mentioned. However only Thailand ever denied me entry. 

Lots of Canadians are immigration gamers, and lots of folks seem to have a Canadian passport that also have one from reputable places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Borders are porous, common knowledge.  Good maple syrup and plywood though.. 

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4 minutes ago, moontang said:

Lots of Canadians are immigration gamers, and lots of folks seem to have a Canadian passport that also have one from reputable places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Borders are porous, common knowledge.  Good maple syrup and plywood though.. 

What I mean is that border agent from the commonwealth/UK seems to have a particular training. When going back to my home country I get grilled and I'm not alone. However, I don't take it personally. I understand why and how they try to accomplish their job. 

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5 hours ago, yogi100 said:

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.

 

There's always a first time. There was for my friend that I mentioned in the other topic on the same subject.

Yes duly noted and agree wholeheartedly. I’ll be married early in the new year so no more dancing around visa issues for this little black duck 

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7 hours ago, yogi100 said:

I've been getting METVs for years from the London Embassy and various UK consulates.

 

I've never once been even asked about any airline ticket.

You will not get any visa in the UK now without a prepaid Itenary since 15th June

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3 hours ago, nailbrains8 said:

Precisely this.

 

I have many friends who work for a few months in their home countries or around the world (oil industry) they earn good money and want to come and spend it in Thailand for 6-9 months.

 

They apply for a METV visa because it is a 6 month visa and they aren't coming here anymore because of what's going on.

 

What other options do they have?

 

Elite visa? Pay 500,000 baht so you can take a 6 month trip... no!

 

Education? They want to relax and spend their money not go to school.

 

Retirement? They are under 50.

 

Clearly their money is not welcome.

 

Which is fine...

 

But don't hoodwink them by giving them a visa and then rejecting them at the airport.

 

It's a disgrace. 

 

If this is the new norm then Thai immigration needs to stop issuing METV's or reinvoke the old 180 law, make it public and let the world know that long term tourists are not welcome.

Well said.

 

Bang on the nail, pun unintentional.

 

I'm due to go to Pattaya in the next few weeks for 2 - 3 months on my NON-IMM, O category, Multiple Entry Visa and I'm worried about being allowed admittance.

 

It would not be so bad if you could find out in advance. I'll be paying around £600 for the flight and the visa set me back £125 on 28/3/19 (they're £150 now).

 

I applied in person at the London Embassy, paid cash but there was no hint nor mention of these possible set backs regarding being permitted to enter.

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2 hours ago, SpanishExpat said:

But this is Thailand and they won`t reinvoke it. The problem with your friend seems so complex, but in the end he arrived there at the wrong time with the wrong IO. Plus he had no clue how to defend himself, which he can`t be blamed for. Guys like him with no gf/native contact here in Thailand are the easiest target. If he would have had a thai gf and would have called her, it would have ended differently. With the typical`I let you enter one last time , but you cannot come back blabla`.

 

If the detention room would have been full...he would have passed....and so on. There are so many factors you can`t think about, as they are not logic = thai logic. After all, it`s similar to many clubs. The security doesn`t like your face + you are an easy target (other then just the typical 2 weeks visitor) = they won`t let you in. And the reason is, because they can. They can do that in every country worldwide, but the IO in civilized countries are well trained to make decisions based on laws and NOT on subjective feelings/ random factors.

Well put. That's the general impression.

 

Thai IOs seem to have the demeanour and personality of night club bouncers.

 

I for one would not be surprised if they get their training on the doors of the night clubs on Walking Street in Pattaya.

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25 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:

You will not get any visa in the UK now without a prepaid Itenary since 15th June

So you'll have to book and pay for a flight before you know if you can get a visa to gain admittance. That's common sense Thai style. 

 

Now the METV has been stopped few long termers will be bothering with the LOS any more. If that's what they want that's what they'll be getting.

 

One of my friends has just got back from Samui, another from Pattaya and another is an expat who lives in Pattaya. All of 'em while admitting that it's high season all say it's as dead as a door nail. So far that's mainly down to the strong baht.

 

This high season should be interesting.

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1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

Well said.

 

Bang on the nail, pun unintentional.

 

I'm due to go to Pattaya in the next few weeks for 2 - 3 months on my NON-IMM, O category, Multiple Entry Visa and I'm worried about being allowed admittance.

 

It would not be so bad if you could find out in advance. I'll be paying around £600 for the flight and the visa set me back £125 on 28/3/19 (they're £150 now).

 

I applied in person at the London Embassy, paid cash but there was no hint nor mention of these possible set backs regarding being permitted to enter.

Let's not forget that in order to even be granted an METV you must show 6 months worth of bank statements to prove you can cover you stay... 

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1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

So you'll have to book and pay for a flight before you know if you can get a visa to gain admittance. That's common sense Thai style. 

 

Now the METV has been stopped few long termers will be bothering with the LOS any more. If that's what they want that's what they'll be getting.

 

One of my friends has just got back from Samui, another from Pattaya and another is an expat who lives in Pattaya. All of 'em while admitting that it's high season all say it's as dead as a door nail. So far that's mainly down to the strong baht.

 

This high season should be interesting.

Yes you need to have booked flights, accommodation, a UK or Irish passport or ( if you are not a UK or Irish passport holder a long term leave to remain in the UK) and an employer letter specifically addressed to the Embassy or a particular consulate. The METV is still available in the UK. London you now need to apply and pay by using Evisa for all visa classes. There are no 'Walk in' applications allowed. If your not successful in obtaining the METV, they will issue a SETV but there is no return in difference of fees. Then you either post the application or make an appointment to drop it off. They will notify you when the collection is available. It isn't same day service. The Thai consulates in Glasgow, Hull, (Liverpool needs an appointment) and Dublin are same day drop off and collection for Tourist visas. None of the consulates can issue a Non O visa without pre-approval from London
ME Non O visas are no longer issued anywhere in the UK. Only single entry are now issued. None of consulates can accept postal or return applications any longer.

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6 hours ago, nailbrains8 said:

They apply for a METV visa because it is a 6 month visa and they aren't coming here anymore because of what's going on.

 

They don't understand the purpose of this visa then.

 

It's not for someone to spend 6-9 months in Thailand "continuously" (minus one day every 90 days, with all entries extended), that's why it allows a permission of up to 60 days per entry, and not 6 months per entry.

 

Other visa categories allow a longer permission of stay per entry.

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On 10/11/2019 at 11:59 AM, possum1931 said:

Good post, but I would not laugh at anyone for the way they dress except the old fat ugly guys with no shirt and big titties. 😀

How Dare YOU Talk about me Like That.....

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