Refused Entry in BKK - Second METV - Deported back to London

[marqus12 737]

2 hours ago, baboon said:

It isn't only tourist visas. Non 'O's are gradually coming under suspicion too. I have yet to be refused entry, but lately at border points in the south, I have this feeling that they are just itching to bring the hammer down but the time is not right. Yet.

Funny, I had the same impression recently at Phuket airport.

[marqus12 737]

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 2:59 AM, BritTim said:

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 2:15 AM, nailbrains8 said:

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 12:52 AM, TooMuchTime said:

Why do they force a flight back to London?  Can he choose to take a flight somewhere else?  Do they just force your last departure origin or home country?

Yes, he wanted to fly to Vietnam but they wouldn't allow it.

There is a rule that the airline that brought you to Thailand is responsible for your removal. He arrived on British Airways. I doubt BA has flights from Bangkok to Vietnam, so that would not have been an option

what if the airline that brought me here flies directly outside of Thailand
only to china and vietnam and in both cases I have to get a visa

in advance for these two countries ???

[Lovethailandelite 757]

4 minutes ago, marqus12 said:

what if the airline that brought me here flies directly outside of Thailand
only to china and vietnam and in both cases I have to get a visa

in advance for these two countries ???

The decision is made by the airline but in the case you have stated above, you are likely going back to your passport country.

[Hk810 3]

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

Which debit card do you have ?

 

5 hours ago, UKresonant said:

Will you avoid the per withdrawal 220baht flat fee charged at Thai ATMs with that card? 

 

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

He will if he doesnt use an ATM and gets cash over the counter

If you are from USA I use TD bank. You do get charged the fee but you get reimbursed the money at the end of the month. Thats why i don't bother carrying much cash anymore. 

[jacko45k 11,447]

10 hours ago, Hk810 said:

ugh lol what documents should i bring? i don't plan on bringing cash since my debit card doesn't charge any fees. I guess a bank statement? 

 

Thanks 

If you are arriving on a tourist visa or plan on using tourist exempt, you are required to have the cash on you (20,000 baht or equivalent). They won't want to see a bank statement.

[BritTim 7,795]

5 hours ago, marqus12 said:

what if the airline that brought me here flies directly outside of Thailand
only to china and vietnam and in both cases I have to get a visa

in advance for these two countries ???

In that case, it becomes complicated. Your airline needs to negotiate with airlines that can return you to home country, generally indemnifying the airline that agrees to carry you against all costs they incur. In the end, your home country's national airline will be obliged to carry you if it becomes clear that no other option is available.

[Caldera 1,321]

5 hours ago, Hk810 said:

Thats why i don't bother carrying much cash anymore. 

Whatever your reason may be, having a certain amount of cash on you is a formal entry requirement when entering Thailand. If they happen to ask you and you cannot show it, you could be denied entry.

 

Personally, while I think that this rule is silly in this day and age, I also think that having some emergency cash cannot hurt.

[baboon 19,072]

8 hours ago, marqus12 said:

Funny, I had the same impression recently at Phuket airport.

So it isn't only me, then...

[marqus12 737]

14 hours ago, Lovethailandelite said:

The decision is made by the airline but in the case you have stated above, you are likely going back to your passport country.

 

8 hours ago, BritTim said:

In that case, it becomes complicated. Your airline needs to negotiate with airlines that can return you to home country, generally indemnifying the airline that agrees to carry you against all costs they incur. In the end, your home country's national airline will be obliged to carry you if it becomes clear that no other option is available.

what worries me the most is that I am heavily addicted to nicotine

and caffeine. I may have a nervous breakdown locked in some cell

without it 555

 

thanks for the reply

[Hk810 3]

20 hours ago, jacko45k said:

If you are arriving on a tourist visa or plan on using tourist exempt, you are required to have the cash on you (20,000 baht or equivalent). They won't want to see a bank statement.

 

18 hours ago, Caldera said:

Whatever your reason may be, having a certain amount of cash on you is a formal entry requirement when entering Thailand. If they happen to ask you and you cannot show it, you could be denied entry.

 

Personally, while I think that this rule is silly in this day and age, I also think that having some emergency cash cannot hurt.

guess ill carry some cash then, Thanks guys

[BritTim 7,795]

On 10/17/2019 at 3:26 PM, marqus12 said:

 

what worries me the most is that I am heavily addicted to nicotine

and caffeine. I may have a nervous breakdown locked in some cell

without it 555

 

thanks for the reply

Talk to a good doctor. A combination of a nicotine patch and anti anxiety drug should allow you a relatively smooth journey.

[JackThompson 5,952]

On 10/13/2019 at 4:50 PM, Selatan said:

I think the Thai government knows exactly what they are doing. I think they are trying to get rid of Thailand's image as a sex tourist attraction

In that case, they would stop all short-term vacation visitors to Thailand, since they make up 99% of that clientelle.

 

On 10/13/2019 at 4:50 PM, Selatan said:

is now common for Malaysians to visit Thailand with the whole family, unlike in the past, where mostly only men would go to Thailand solely for the whores.

Again, that's the short-term folks packing walking-st, etc.

 

As to family-visitors - like the Russian families who used to "winter" here, before immigration drove them out - resulting in the closing of businesses which catered to them?  Many Thais lost their jobs from this - and many more from the general-crackdown against Westerners, which saw entire streets boarded-up. 

 

I get the feeling those doing this don't particularly like poorer Thais getting good jobs and starting businesses.  The Chinese tour-group types put all their money in 'connected' Thai businesses - not small businesses which provide "upward mobility' to working-class people. 

 

And, I suppose, if I had paid a small fortune to "buy my job" in a corrupt govt agency, I wouldn't like seeing "lower people" getting ahead by being entreprenuers, either - and certainly not longer-term visitors who obtained Visas through another govt-agency, so aren't providing ROI on my "buy a job" investment, by paying me off via the expected corruption-payments via agents, etc.

[JackThompson 5,952]

On 10/11/2019 at 2:54 AM, nailbrains8 said:

Don't fly in from a country far away. Fly into a neighbouring country first. Then fly to Thailand.

Better - fly to a neighboring country, then use a law-abiding land-border.  If that entry point changes policy (i.e. paid off) before you get there, at least you can just walk back to the other country.

 

On 10/13/2019 at 4:00 AM, MattDM said:

Can you try again without consequence?

Other than possible denied-entry, yes.

 

On 10/13/2019 at 4:00 AM, MattDM said:

will a new passport help?

No, Immigration will have a full-record of all entries/exits going back years.

 

Using a law-abiding entry-point is the only solution.

 

 

[JackThompson 5,952]

On 10/16/2019 at 7:39 PM, Hk810 said:

ugh lol what documents should i bring? i don't plan on bringing cash since my debit card doesn't charge any fees. I guess a bank statement? 

 

Thanks 

20K Baht worth of CASH, a flight out within 60 days or sooner, and proof of hotel-bookings for a good portion of your stay.   Even then, they may ignore all that, and stamp your passport rejected - claiming you are, basically, "indigent."  

 

I'd change the flight to somewhere else - Chiang Mai is a better bet, though I personally will never fly into Thailand, due to the blatantly-corrupt airport immigration situation.

 

On 10/17/2019 at 3:26 PM, marqus12 said:

what worries me the most is that I am heavily addicted to nicotine

and caffeine. I may have a nervous breakdown locked in some cell

without it 555

 

thanks for the reply

Bring a small amount of chewing tobacco - works for the plane, too.  You could pay off staff/guard to get you coffee in detention, but avoiding the situation ENTIRELY would be my choice.

[yogi100 2,835]

On 10/13/2019 at 2:38 AM, baboon said:

A multiple entry Non O and time spent out of Thailand? Chances are you will sail through or at worst, be asked a couple of questions before sailing through. Where are you flying in from?

London Heathrow.