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Hi Jack. 

what in your opinion is the the best and safest land border crossing?

 

There is a possibility that i will fly directly into Chiang Mai from vietnam so that I am hoping may work. I am getting a new passport regardless, but I assume your entry history is only available on a search, which they may not do when you enter the country. Do you have any knowledge of what an immigration officer sees when the passport is scanned?

 

Thanks, Matt

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Just spent the day conversing with a friend of mine who was in the BKK detention centre all day and night.   He flew in on only his second METV from London and had spent the last 2-3 months

I think the key point which you have mentioned is that he spent 8-9 months of the last year in Thailand, on tourist visas. People have been refused entry after having spent less time in the country. O

The OP to this post is correct. I know this because I AM THE PERSON THIS HAPPENED TO. The OP is a good friend of mine who put this up while I was pretty much on the plane back.   The story;

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6 hours ago, JackThompson said:

As to family-visitors - like the Russian families who used to "winter" here, before immigration drove them out

Pray tell, what exactly did immigration do to crash the Ruble?   :coffee1:

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5 hours ago, MattDM said:

Hi Jack. 

what in your opinion is the the best and safest land border crossing?

 

There is a possibility that i will fly directly into Chiang Mai from vietnam so that I am hoping may work. I am getting a new passport regardless, but I assume your entry history is only available on a search, which they may not do when you enter the country. Do you have any knowledge of what an immigration officer sees when the passport is scanned?

 

Thanks, Matt

The consensus is any land border except Poipet and to a lesser extent Padang Besar. The safest land border is probably Nong Khai but from experience Ban Laem is another one. 

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6 hours ago, MattDM said:

Hi Jack. 

what in your opinion is the the best and safest land border crossing?

 

There is a possibility that i will fly directly into Chiang Mai from vietnam so that I am hoping may work. I am getting a new passport regardless, but I assume your entry history is only available on a search, which they may not do when you enter the country. Do you have any knowledge of what an immigration officer sees when the passport is scanned?

 

Thanks, Matt

What does an IO see when he scans your passport. That is a very interesting question. My guess is not very much without scrolling down or clicking on to some link, or I, with a long history of (decades) excemptions and TVs, would be getting a lot more scrutiny than I have gotten over the last few years since the crackdown on serial tourists started. They can see a lot, if they choose to,  if something makes them suspicious, but they don't see it right after scanning, and in vast majority of cases they can't be bothered to look further :They are half asleep or daydreaming most of the time anyway. 

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3 hours ago, thecyclist said:

What does an IO see when he scans your passport. That is a very interesting question. My guess is not very much without scrolling down or clicking on to some link, or I, with a long history of (decades) excemptions and TVs, would be getting a lot more scrutiny than I have gotten over the last few years since the crackdown on serial tourists started. They can see a lot, if they choose to,  if something makes them suspicious, but they don't see it right after scanning, and in vast majority of cases they can't be bothered to look further :They are half asleep or daydreaming most of the time anyway. 

They get automated alert after 6 entry. You have been lucky or use the right visa 🙂

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1 hour ago, Tuvoc said:

6 entries over what time period? 

I believe this only applies to visa exempt entries, and is six visa exempt entries since around the middle of 2015. The notification is not that you should be denied entry, but that you should be scrutinised more closely as a genuine tourist, and you are not using visa exempts as a way of living long term in Thailand.

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44 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I believe this only applies to visa exempt entries, and is six visa exempt entries since around the middle of 2015. The notification is not that you should be denied entry, but that you should be scrutinised more closely as a genuine tourist, and you are not using visa exempts as a way of living long term in Thailand.

Uh ?

I thought there was a limit of 2 visa exempt / calendar year, but what now !?

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2 hours ago, BritTim said:

I believe this only applies to visa exempt entries, and is six visa exempt entries since around the middle of 2015. The notification is not that you should be denied entry, but that you should be scrutinised more closely as a genuine tourist, and you are not using visa exempts as a way of living long term in Thailand.

Crikey, since 2015 I've probably had double that number. Doesn't seem right to me. Visa exempts only allow 30 days so that should be the least of their worries. 

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3 hours ago, FredGallaher said:

I'm having a hard time believing you. This is about visa entries not trips to the can.

12 visa exempt entries in 4 years, which is how I read Tuvoc's post, is not particularly high.  I have a similar amount and until earlier this year I was just a regular holidaymaker making the most of my leave.

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On 10/17/2019 at 12:57 AM, marqus12 said:

what if the airline that brought me here flies directly outside of Thailand
only to china and vietnam and in both cases I have to get a visa

in advance for these two countries ???

to china there are visa exempt entries for those with onward flights within 24 hours, i just did that last week.

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I was scrutinized the last time coming through BKK with a SETV (my second in a row). I was asked if I was working and then asked if I had a GF there. I replied no the two questions. 

The Girlfriend question, should i've replied yes or no? 

I did have a 4 month rental contract in BKK in my bag, but I never brought it up. I figured it would work to my disadvantage having a rental contract since it doesn't really imply travelling. Any thoughts on this? 

 

 

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10 hours ago, aldriglikvid said:

The Girlfriend question, should i've replied yes or no? 

Do you have a girlfriend?

 

You replied no, so let's assume you don't have a Thai girlfriend. If you had replied yes, there's a chance they would have wanted to talk to her on the phone.

 

Best to answer truthfully, I'd say.

 

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10 hours ago, aldriglikvid said:

I was scrutinized the last time coming through BKK with a SETV (my second in a row). I was asked if I was working and then asked if I had a GF there. I replied no the two questions. 

The Girlfriend question, should i've replied yes or no? 

I did have a 4 month rental contract in BKK in my bag, but I never brought it up. I figured it would work to my disadvantage having a rental contract since it doesn't really imply travelling. Any thoughts on this? 

 

 

 

I would agree with answering "No".

 

Having myself been in the "interrogation" area twice now when entering through BKK, it does seem that the questions are all around trying to demonstrate that you are not just a visiting tourist, and getting you to say something which indicates that, such as a girlfriend, ability to speak thai, or any form of long term connection. They do not listen to anything you say unless it helps them prove this, so I would suggest saying as little as possible, as they seem to have made up their mind before you sit. Just keep it simple and keep explaining your on holiday and show youre flight ticket home.

 

On the second time I think I only got through because I kept on repeating "No", that I was on holiday only,  and also that they were much more interested in the gentlemen seated next to me who was also being questioned who was telling them he speaks Thai and that as he has 20,000 baht they must let him in.

 

Even then it did seem 50/50. Just before I was let through , I heard one officer say to his colleague that he would let me in, to which his colleague looked at the printout of my entries and said to him "You can't!", to which he shrugged as if he couldn't really be bothered to reject me or something. So I think you can help yourself by "being a tourist", but a lot must also come down to the luck of which IO you get

 

 

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