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8 hours ago, NewbieInBangkok said:

Good info...I didn’t realise Ploenchit would be easier to get to the highway than from PP and TL.  I’ll take a closer look at the condos around there.

 

What time does rush hour start?  My husband has flexitime but is thinking that he’d leave for work at 6:30am.  Is this early enough to beat the traffic or not really?

rush hour starts a bit later in Bangkok than most other cities i know. 6-30am is still pretty quiet esp as he would tend to be going against the traffic. His morning commute is unlikely to be much of a problem; the traffic will be more of a problem returning home afternoon or evening. Worth also considering exactly where exactly his office is around the airport as there are 2 possible highways , one that goes North of the airport and another to the South, there are also links that run between the two. they have different traffic patterns, from my experience. If one or the other is more convenient, for his office then that may also be worth considering in terms of where you live. 

 Depending on his office location the airport rail link may also be a good option, esp for his home journey. If i had to commute daily to the airport i would certainly consider that, esp if he has a driver. he can do the morning run by car then home on the train.

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5 hours ago, Kinnock said:

plus you spend half your life in the lift. 

Really dude, can we be realisitic here?

 

4 hours ago, NewbieInBangkok said:

Khan na yao

OK. Call up your Hs exact place of work. See the two expressways? Sirirat and Chulong. thats probably how he would get out there. Find a nieghborhood with easy access to either and trains. To me that would be Victory Monumet BTS, Phaya Thai BTS and Rathaprapop and Makkasan. TL out towrds Petch would be good too

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5 hours ago, NewbieInBangkok said:

Thanks...a lot of good info.

 

And no, on the contrary, it’s my husband who would prefer to live in the same vicinity as his coworkers. I did suggest looking for a house nearer his work. Anyway, the list of accommodation available to us, albeit a very long list, does not have any houses or apartments any closer to his work. They are all in the area between Ekkamai (none even as far as On Nut) to Silom/Sathorn and as far as Riverside - that triangle kinda. No offence taken.

 

Advice much appreciated 😊

There's no substitute for staying there and trying out the commute.

I live 1.3km from my son's school. By scooter I can ride 5km to get there going along a canal, by car I drive 15km along the roads... GPS (Google) will give me a kind of average journey time which can vary - if it states 40 minutes, the actual trip can take between 30 and 90.

 

On one day when his mother insisted on taking the car, the round trip took 3.5 hours because it started raining after we left home.

 

Best advice - take a hotel room, then look around when you're here.

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10 hours ago, Matzzon said:

And Google know nothing about the traffic. Most of the time you will have to add 1-1/2 hour for congestion.

And Google also cannot keep up with police changing stuff - closing u-turns or coning off routes.

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13 hours ago, NewbieInBangkok said:

Thank you for taking so much time to give info.

 

The problem we have is that we will have to decide on a few to view before we fly over to Bangkok.  Once there we will have just 1.5 days to decide which of them we will live in.  If I had longer to decide it would make things much easier.

 

There are soooo many that would be completely fine and I’m glad that the company realtor we are dealing with does not have access to everything available so that has helped to narrow things down.

 

Furnishings is important to me so I must admit I was tending to rule out the older condos because the furniture might be shabby but it is true that they have the larger rooms.

 

Decisions, decisions...

Get them to put you up in a serviced apt until you decide. That was the case with me when I relocated to Singapore in 2010. My company gave me one month to find a place. Well that turned out to be 6 weeks eventually, but this is how it should be done.

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i missed your post where you said he will be working in Khan Na Yao, which is a fair distance North and West of the airport, so airport link would make no sense.  His route to work would likely be Chalong Rat or Highway 9 depending on where exactly his place of work is in that area. I understand why Ekhami/Phra Kanong may be popular with his co-workers as you can access Chalong Rat easily from that location,  certainly that time of the morning. Getting home later will be a bit more of a problem. Looks like that maybe is the area you should focus on. 

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Google Maps is dreadful here on a week day. I drove home from work last Friday after playing footy and it said 25 mins, whereas it ended up being nearly an hour. 

 

If he is going out towards the airport every day then I would definitely be around Thong Lor or Ekkamai with your budget. Staying down near the river would be a bad call. 

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18 hours ago, wordchild said:

They also keep saying the BTS station there will close, but I don’t know when that will be.

Can you give any more information on that, please?  Which BTS station do you mean, and who keeps saying that it will be closed?

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8 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Really dude, can we be realisitic here?

 

OK. Call up your Hs exact place of work. See the two expressways? Sirirat and Chulong. thats probably how he would get out there. Find a nieghborhood with easy access to either and trains. To me that would be Victory Monumet BTS, Phaya Thai BTS and Rathaprapop and Makkasan. TL out towrds Petch would be good too

Unfortunately all of the options are sort of between Ekkamai, Siam, down to Sathorn/Silom and over to Riverside.

 

But info much appreciated.

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6 hours ago, ben2talk said:

There's no substitute for staying there and trying out the commute.

I live 1.3km from my son's school. By scooter I can ride 5km to get there going along a canal, by car I drive 15km along the roads... GPS (Google) will give me a kind of average journey time which can vary - if it states 40 minutes, the actual trip can take between 30 and 90.

 

On one day when his mother insisted on taking the car, the round trip took 3.5 hours because it started raining after we left home.

 

Best advice - take a hotel room, then look around when you're here.

Unfortunately we have to narrow down a shortlist and then choose during a very short business trip.  So I have to gather as much info as possible to make an informed decision.

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4 hours ago, Poppadom said:

Get them to put you up in a serviced apt until you decide. That was the case with me when I relocated to Singapore in 2010. My company gave me one month to find a place. Well that turned out to be 6 weeks eventually, but this is how it should be done.

We have had that option in other countries we have been transferred to but not for Thailand apparently.  Decision has to be made my narrowing down their list to a shortlist to view during a business trip lasting just a few days a month before we move.

 

Im not fussed really as there are some lovely places within budget so I am sure we will find something we like.  We can always move again (at our expense) once in the country I guess.

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4 hours ago, wordchild said:

i missed your post where you said he will be working in Khan Na Yao, which is a fair distance North and West of the airport, so airport link would make no sense.  His route to work would likely be Chalong Rat or Highway 9 depending on where exactly his place of work is in that area. I understand why Ekhami/Phra Kanong may be popular with his co-workers as you can access Chalong Rat easily from that location,  certainly that time of the morning. Getting home later will be a bit more of a problem. Looks like that maybe is the area you should focus on. 

Yes sorry...my fault as my knowledge of Bangkok is zero at the moment but growing each day with research.  I am going off of google maps and have thought things were much closer than they seem.  I think it’s near the Siam Amazing Park.  And yes, those 2 highways are the routes showing on google maps.

 

His job involves a lot of business dinners with visitors from other companies and countries so I assume they’d leave the office to get to the centre pretty early on those days.  On usual workdays he often works pretty late.  But until we get there he won’t know the culture of this branch of his company.

 

Thank you.  You continue to be very helpful.

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4 hours ago, BobbyL said:

Google Maps is dreadful here on a week day. I drove home from work last Friday after playing footy and it said 25 mins, whereas it ended up being nearly an hour. 

 

If he is going out towards the airport every day then I would definitely be around Thong Lor or Ekkamai with your budget. Staying down near the river would be a bad call. 

I see.  I’ve always lived in countries where Google Maps was incredibly accurate so I guess I’ll just use it as a guide in Thailand but factor in worst case scenarios.  

 

And Thong Lor - Phrom Phong seems to be where husband would rather stay if he can’t live at the Riverside.  If he can’t get the lifestyle then at least he wants to be close to where everyone else he knows is living.

 

Thank you.

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1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

Can you give any more information on that, please?  Which BTS station do you mean, and who keeps saying that it will be closed?

Saphan Taksin, this has been an ongoing saga for several years now. The original plan (from the BMA) was to demolish it and provide a pedestrian walkway to connect to another station further up Sathorn ;  but in recent times that seems to have changed to a period of closure (2 years?)  to allow for the complete rebuild of the station and the addition of another track to ease the bottleneck caused by the current (single track)  design . There has been recent press comment that suggested  the closure and start of the rebuild would happen during 2019 but, so far, that has (clearly) not happened. I really have no idea what the current situation is as plans seem to be changing all the time

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45 minutes ago, wordchild said:

Saphan Taksin, this has been an ongoing saga for several years now. The original plan (from the BMA) was to demolish it and provide a pedestrian walkway to connect to another station further up Sathorn ;  but in recent times that seems to have changed to a period of closure (2 years?)  to allow for the complete rebuild of the station and the addition of another track to ease the bottleneck caused by the current (single track)  design . There has been recent press comment that suggested  the closure and start of the rebuild would happen during 2019 but, so far, that has (clearly) not happened. I really have no idea what the current situation is as plans seem to be changing all the time

Thanks.

 

So the station is not going to be closed in the foreseeable future and, if it is removed, it will be replaced by a new, better one. 

 

Not much of a problem for the OP, then, I'd guess.

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