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18 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Referendum ballot paper very straight forward. Either No Deal, or Deal. Remain eliminated in 2016.

It won't be necessary. Now the EU have been given a way out, they'll approve the embryo agreement and johnson will get it past parliament, IMO. simple solution actually - the whole of Ireland will abide by EU tariffs, therefore not necessitating a border. And the UK would leave the Customs Union. 

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18 hours ago, alacrity said:

Doesn't matter if folks agree or disagree with the results of a referendum. It's the duty of politicians to bi-laterally carry the mandate of the majority (of voters) to fruition in a true democracy.

 

Not many of those in the Western World at the moment.

it's the duty of politicians to decide what's best for Britain. Full stop.

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43 minutes ago, el torro said:

Weird as both Ireland and the EU had previously insisted there was no room for negotiation....

 

The sensible amongst us (leavers) always knew that they would change their tune at the last minute.

 

Not that it is cause for celebration - as it will still end up being a slightly fudged version of the appalling original May/EU 'deal'.

Well, naturally. That's why brexit was always going to be the largest folly any current government engaged in, and why it should have been junked. 

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On 10/11/2019 at 2:22 PM, sanuk711 said:

All those "Know it all's" telling us how the pound will crash if we leave the EU.......it does the opposite on just a possibility ---the same day the Euro dropped by the way.......:coffee1:

 

Think about this carefully.

 

Check what the exchange rates were before the referendum, and the trends since. 

 

The "possibility" was in leaving with a deal rather than crashing out with no deal! Lo!

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Weird as both Ireland and the EU had previously insisted there was no room for negotiation....
 
The sensible amongst us (leavers) always knew that they would change their tune at the last minute.
 
Not that it is cause for celebration - as it will still end up being a slightly fudged version of the appalling original May/EU 'deal'.
The sensible leavers would be the Soft Brexit supporters and they have been denounced as Enemies of the People. However, Hard Brexiteers trying to repaint themselves, well that should be a hoot. Sensible Hard Brexiteers? Could fit the whole lot comfortably in a single phone box.

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Think about this carefully.
 
Check what the exchange rates were before the referendum, and the trends since. 
 
The "possibility" was in leaving with a deal rather than crashing out with no deal! Lo!
It is not an easy process for the Hard Brexiteers to think carefully. The reality is that the markets differentiate between Hard and Soft Brexit for Sterling movements. For Hard Brexiteers, their nonsense is conflating no-deal Brexit with Brexit, so with Sterling rising with a deal possibly emerging, some of the HB's want to own this process and end up talking junk. My advice? Avoid any FX consultant who says he is a H. Brexiteer. He will lose you lots of money.....more than you have lost so far.

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22 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

No wait - a deal/remain ref is a winner - we will remain and then we should get a big lift. My money would then be on a remain /  coalition parliament in the next election so Corbyn's hand will be stayed. You never know we might go into spring next year at 50 baht to the pound  and Brexit just a bad dream and pretend the last 3 1/2 years never happened. I think we could all cheer that eventuality , even Mr Loiner.

Get a momentum,sorry Labour ,coalition government in power and you,'ll see 30baht =£1

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5 hours ago, stephenterry said:

it's the duty of politicians to decide what's best for Britain. Full stop.

Then why bother having elections?

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24 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

err you vote them in by that process...

Thanks BeautifulThailand99 for taking the time and making the effort to try at least to educate the brexiteers in the fundamentals of civics.  Perhaps you could have a go at economics next, or will that be a bridge too far?

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Reading between the lines the deal is a stab in the back for NI, so looks like a none starter can not see any none Tories voting for it not even the DUP, and even a number of Tories will probably turn their backs on it. next Saturday will be crunch day...

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38 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Reading between the lines the deal is a stab in the back for NI, so looks like a none starter can not see any none Tories voting for it not even the DUP, and even a number of Tories will probably turn their backs on it. next Saturday will be crunch day...

 

         UK , elected parliament , will say nay ..

             Next extension expected soon..

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42 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Reading between the lines the deal is a stab in the back for NI, so looks like a none starter can not see any none Tories voting for it not even the DUP, and even a number of Tories will probably turn their backs on it. next Saturday will be crunch day...

It would be a turn out for the books if the Conservative and Unionist Party voted to separate NI !

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