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19 hours ago, DrTuner said:

It is for certain one of my selection criteria, together with food and wine.

 

Prague and Munich are examples of beer destinations.

Understandable. An immense part of the culture is built around beer festivals. But not craft beer. In fact, I'd be surprised if, in Germany, there were many craft beers at all. The rules and regulations for producing beer in Germany are strict and rigorous. And I don't think some Hipster brewed concoction is going to pass the test all that easily.

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I am on the eastern gulf side near Koh Chang right now. 

The whole island is full with Germans, I can literally speak German here everywhere... German families and couples, no sexpats. There are no lady bars here at all. 

 

So yeah they might go less to the usual <deleted> holes but if you really want they are still easy to attract. Just build non <deleted>ty resorts, don't rip them off, and they come... Oh and don't invite tons of Indians and Chinese, that's a sure way for them to never come back. 

 

 

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A post bringing prostitution into the topic has been removed:

 

17) You will not discuss the specifics of prostitution. Though Thailand has a visible sex industry, and acknowledgement of that fact is not forbidden, ThaiVisa is not the place to seek or give information on this topic, regardless of your sexual habits, preferences or orientation.

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10 hours ago, Schtrick said:

Thailand has its problems that will probably never get sorted, but if you look at the data on foreign passports entering Thailand Europeans / USA make up a very small percentage of the total, but watch Pattaya One news every night and who do you see getting arrested, stabbed, sh*t kicked out of? It aint the Chinese, Koreans etc. Btw, forgot to mention, Grande Centre Point has no alcohol in any restaurant, nor pool bar. Good strategy for a high class place as it keeps the falang (trouble makers) well away.

I was taking the mickey out of the guy who blamed all the problems that Thailand has on retirees, I'm struggling with the idea that some seem to take it literally.

I have no idea what a glass/bottle of wine costs.I know beers overpriced a glass of draught tiger cost me 99baht in the Stumble Inn Bangkok beginning of march.

I don't know if it was a half litre 500ml or a half pint American that's 8 fluid ounces or Brit half that's 10 fluid ounces, if I remember correctly, the last time I had to deal with that was at catering college at the end of the 60s.

I rarely drink these days just the odd beer to cool down.

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because i have already booked i will visit in December but will be the last time after 15 years my only holiday destination.....because of high baht and of course Brexit the pound exchange is <deleted> so time to look for pastures new

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27 minutes ago, riverdee said:

because i have already booked i will visit in December but will be the last time after 15 years my only holiday destination.....because of high baht and of course Brexit the pound exchange is <deleted> so time to look for pastures new

Maybe boring Cotswolds? or grimy London, Brighton, Stonehenge, Stoke on Trent ????????????

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20 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Yes no visa problems.

But maybe these tourists have had bad experiences. Then these tourists will not come back. And the negative holiday experiences make the rounds in there local home circles of friends.

There were just as many bad experiences in the past. Con men didn't just start operating last year, and standards of accommodation were terrible in places. The ferries to the islands were a disgrace, and drunk captains sank vessels with loss of life.

The difference now is that the internet allows any disappointed softie to post to the world about their experience, and all the masses take it as gospel.

Thailand was wonderful, but one had to take the rough with the brilliant. Now, apparently, if someone stubs their toe on a paving stone, it's world news.

The internet has changed the world and not for the better.

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1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

There were just as many bad experiences in the past. Con men didn't just start operating last year, and standards of accommodation were terrible in places. The ferries to the islands were a disgrace, and drunk captains sank vessels with loss of life.

The difference now is that the internet allows any disappointed softie to post to the world about their experience, and all the masses take it as gospel.

Thailand was wonderful, but one had to take the rough with the brilliant. Now, apparently, if someone stubs their toe on a paving stone, it's world news.

The internet has changed the world and not for the better.

I actually agree with you ... hooray !! woo hoo !!

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19 hours ago, kingdong said:

Basically thailand as a tourist destination is a busted flush,prices are higher than uk,and I live in london,only thing cheaper are hotels,and transportation,might have a week next time I visit  South East asia,no more

Do you only eat in Dukes? How can a 50 baht meal be more than what you'd pay in London? Even Mcds is more than that, a lot more.

Clothes, dental treatment, over counter drugs; all way cheaper.

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20 hours ago, Melbun said:

Oh look !! it's possible to have a terrible holiday experience no matter where you travel. You pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get on with it. That's no valid excuse to not come back to Thailand

Sri Lanka was terrible for me. I'll never go back there. I spent 2 weeks wishing I'd gone to LOS instead.

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37 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sri Lanka was terrible for me. I'll never go back there. I spent 2 weeks wishing I'd gone to LOS instead.

Yeh have to agree again. That place & India  and similar does nothing for me. SE Asia, Latin America are the winners.

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40 minutes ago, Ron jeremy said:

I'm sure that after your misses puts the fear of god into immigration, they will let you in. You can't be serious?

Maybe she's a Mrs Thatcher lookalike (rip) ... breathing fire and brimstone (I scared already even thinking about it).

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