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This kind of a problem is why I would never buy a condo or even a house in a gated community.  I don't want to live that close to people and don't want them living that close to me.  I am actually a very friendly, tolerant guy who is always willing to help others, especially my neighbors.  However, I just want my privacy.  I currently rent a rather old house that is actually a bit run down, but it is surrounded by two rai of land and cannot even be seen from the road or by the closest neighbors.  I have resisted buying anything here even though I am settled and have a Thai family simply because the various governments over the past more than three decades have not made me feel very wanted or secure.  I have kept my home and land in my country in order to have an alternative for myself and my family.  That said, I love Thailand, feel like it is my home after 30+ years,  and hope to live here until I die.  My family can then either move to my country or sell the property there and use the money here.  I have provided an education for my wife and children and they are bilingual as am I.  I do wish that the government appreciated expats like myself who have worked here, paid taxes here, and spent millions of baht over the years, but I am not holding my breath.

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16 hours ago, banagan said:

Agree, this is the sensible approach. However, the neighbor going on about checking for concrete damage, could be just ignorance or prelude to a shakedown... I mean, concrete damage! Its water, not acid! 

Water is the universal solvent, over time concrete can be damaged by exposure to water. If there is a crack it can migrate to the rebar and cause it to rust

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4 hours ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

Fix it and get on with it.

Water coming from your location is your responsibility.

Start of on good foot with your neighbours for the max 2000 baht  extra costs.

I've no problem fixing it if my condo is the cause. My concern was more about, what if they try some sort of shake down. Like when a farang slightly bumps into a car, and all of a sudden there's 50,000 bahts worth of damage. 

Anyway, probably just overthinking it. Of course I want to solve this so everyones happy, just don't want to be taken for a mug.

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yes i had a leak from upstairs as well,, what you find is all the plumbing for sinks showers, baths, etc,, come through the ceiling and are above your suspended ceiling tiles,, so basically , everyones plumbing is in the condo of the person directly underneath them. so yours is in the condo below,, and if they are as old as mine is, they are rusting and leaking.. I got the condo management to fix it for me and gave them a couple of thousand baht

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3 hours ago, CM Dad said:

This kind of a problem is why I would never buy a condo or even a house in a gated community.  I don't want to live that close to people and don't want them living that close to me.  I am actually a very friendly, tolerant guy who is always willing to help others, especially my neighbors.  However, I just want my privacy.  I currently rent a rather old house that is actually a bit run down, but it is surrounded by two rai of land and cannot even be seen from the road or by the closest neighbors.  I have resisted buying anything here even though I am settled and have a Thai family simply because the various governments over the past more than three decades have not made me feel very wanted or secure.  I have kept my home and land in my country in order to have an alternative for myself and my family.  That said, I love Thailand, feel like it is my home after 30+ years,  and hope to live here until I die.  My family can then either move to my country or sell the property there and use the money here.  I have provided an education for my wife and children and they are bilingual as am I.  I do wish that the government appreciated expats like myself who have worked here, paid taxes here, and spent millions of baht over the years, but I am not holding my breath.

That’s quite the dissertation with regards to your relationship with Thailand, your wife, children, neighbors, the government etc. etc.

 

I have but one question.

 

What do you suggest the OP do with regards to the water leak?

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3 hours ago, moe666 said:

Water is the universal solvent, over time concrete can be damaged by exposure to water. If there is a crack it can migrate to the rebar and cause it to rust

Yes, but not over 2 or 3 days.

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6 hours ago, Aussieroaming said:

Check with your Juristic and if the condo has a maintenance team then get the condo maintenance team to see whether the leak emanates from a common service line or whether indeed it is from inside your condo. 

 

Check the Juristic Insurance Policy, we all contribute to an insurance policy in our condo development that provides some limited coverage for damage.

Good advice, thanks.

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On 10/11/2019 at 7:50 PM, banagan said:

Yes, my builder did mention this, if it's an old leak it will be obvious. I am going to bring another builder plumber, just so I get the full picture. 

Old leak or new leak by your contractor, it does not matter. If there is a leak from your unit, you are the one who is responsible for it. It does not matter when happened or who caused it, IF It is from your plumbing.

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The room below me complained of a leak. I could not understand how it could come from my room as there is a concrete floor between us.

The condo manager took me to see the damage in room below, caused by leaking from a water pipe exiting my floor.

I had had major work done back in 2003 when I moved into the cond. The leak was not from the shower or wash basin both done back then. The leak was traced to the Hong Nam floor drain and a local handyman came around and 'Grouted' all the tiles on the floor and paid special attention to the area around the Floor drain.

Now a month on no report of water leak from room below. 

I paid out B1,000 for damage done and similar amount for the successful repair, good man to have on call.

Here in Chiang Mai we have had several minor shakes from earthquakes over the years which I feel may have contributed.

The Condo manager who I know well and trust was adamant that any leak from room above is the problem of that room owner.

 

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On 10/11/2019 at 6:08 PM, banagan said:

If it was caused by my builder, they probably won't admit it anyway

That is a safe bet. 

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We have had two leaks in our rooms for rent, both times it was from old leaky grout on the bathroom floor.

 

One renter had a spotless bathroom, however her liking for strong, acidic cleaning fluid had destroyed the grout between the tiles.

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On 10/11/2019 at 1:08 PM, banagan said:

Is the burden of proof on them?

Nope, the burden of proof is only reserved for farang.

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THey need to start putting showerpans in their contruction projects. Maybe there is some reason i can't fathom as to why they don't. 

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