lonewolf99 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I remember TAT predicted figures of 20 plus million per year about 10 years ago now they are up to over 40 plus million. At this rate soon immigration will be snowed under with more tourists in the country than actual local people !!! I also see on these news threads on Thai Visa more and more comments about not coming here, not coming back again and leaving for good. There are less and less comments from the rose tinted spec wearers who defend the country and the locals as the tint is now wearing off and reality is setting in. Leopards can't change their spots and the locals cannot or will not listen to advise or change their mind set. Ever. There is no bigger personal insult for any Thai male or female to lose face and admit failure. Their preference is to bluster, lie, cheat and scam their way into a bigger mire of nonsense. Any figures given out by their goverment officals backs this up. Western people grow up knowing that taking good advise and learning from mistakes makes you a better person, gives you valuable experience and knowledge and also maybe admired and appreciated by your peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 For the tourists who want to have party and fun during their holidays: Abolition of the 2 am curfew. Abolition of limited alcohol sales hours. Legalization of weed. Legalization of prostitution. Price reductions for drinks and barfines. Clean the beaches. No honey, no money naa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenKadz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 When a Merchant (country/government/people/etc.) are Rude, Overcharge, and Forget Who is the Customer (Thinking the Customer Has to Have Them), the Customer will usually go where They, and their Business, are Appreciated. Thailand used to at least pretend to have Customer Service 40 years ago. Progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creasy Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 It would be interesting to know the figures from the talked about mass influx during Chinese golden week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 21 hours ago, mok199 said: Like watching a man drown...sad to see this once great Nation , so beat down from abuse ,resorting to gimmicks and trickery to attract customers... I don't know about a great nation. It used to be a fun nation before all the restrictive junta B$. Six of my friends who have been spending their winters here religiously for the last twenty plus years have given up on the place because of the visa changes, the unfriendly people oh and the baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, 0815 said: Where are they all hiding ? In the detention centers....even those that arrive on a valid visa but refused entry are included in the tourist numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Knocker33 said: I don't know about a great nation. It used to be a fun nation before all the restrictive junta B$. Six of my friends who have been spending their winters here religiously for the last twenty plus years have given up on the place because of the visa changes, the unfriendly people oh and the baht. This is a common point and a real contributing factor to the lower "true" tourist numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 59 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said: Why would that make any difference? Because tourists do not like to pay 50% more for the same thing they bought a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifriends Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Many of us must be visitor of Hong Kong some 3 decades back. They were ruthless retailers, con artist taxi drivers and thieves everywhere. Thailand is still not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Caine said: Been wintering away for many years, I’m fit spend big money during my 5-6 months stay at top hotels. In pattaya right? You come with a big group, your family? Alone? 3 hours ago, Caine said: But last time for me I couldn’t give a toss what happens to Thailand or its people Thai people not care about you same. You know about that right? 3 hours ago, Caine said: they have killed the Goose that lays the Golden Egg. And like Thousands of Geese I’m taking flight to more welcoming destinations and we ain’t flying back anytime soon. You welcome to the dog hole. Many years, same dog hole? Why you return “many years”? Good luck with with the new welcoming destinations. You will love it. Ps. The TAT try to get quality tourism. Stay in nice place, shopping a lot, polite people. Family, big group, social people. TAT not want sex tourist. The Golden Egg is not sex tourist. TAT win? Or not? Pss. Why you still post on thai website? What about the “welcoming destination”. Have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoubt Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Well thought out strategies are so welcomed, and certainly quite necessary for the beautiful Kingdom of Thailand. As with any major problem a nation faces, attempts to find positive 'official' solutions may also inadvertently create serious problems and penalize those most innocent. It is hoped that all of the official entities empowered to promulgate policies, rules and regulations, do so carefully to only help the nation and its population. Reasonable people can agree that any government action should only have adverse effects and impacts upon nefarious and criminal persons. Once it is determined that any policy harms the innocent, even unintentionally, it begs to be corrected forthwith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Cadbury said: So it takes a full meeting and lengthy discussions of the Council of the Economic Ministers of Thailand to decide three piddling things to improve tourism. These are the economic brains trust of Thailand's and the best they can come up with is: 1. Expand the number of locations where tourists can claim VAT. 2. Provide loans to owners of rundown hotels to lift their status rating from "dump" to "4 star". 3. to introduce safety measures that have been promised repeatedly for umpteen years. And these people are the stars of the show to lead Thailand forward to economic prosperity. What hope is there? I agree the 3 piddling points mentioned are totally useless for most visitors however the article did also mention: some rules governing the travel of foreigners in Thailand will also be reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 7 hours ago, randy723 said: If Thailand continues to become a dictatorship run country then America will stop American from coming to Thailand the same as they have done to Cuba ???????????????????? Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 7:52 PM, seeyoujimmy said: If tourism is up why are they doing anything. They aren't doing anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Cadbury said: So it takes a full meeting and lengthy discussions of the Council of the Economic Ministers of Thailand to decide three piddling things to improve tourism. These are the economic brains trust of Thailand's and the best they can come up with is: They weren't even the ministers' proposals. They were simply endorsing a package of B.S. that came down the pike from TAT. That's what they do...when they do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanistical Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 and you and your like are a big part of the problem. Good riddance from those expats who live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Redoubt said: Well thought out strategies are so welcomed, and certainly quite necessary for the beautiful Kingdom of Thailand. As with any major problem a nation faces, attempts to find positive 'official' solutions may also inadvertently create serious problems and penalize those most innocent. It is hoped that all of the official entities empowered to promulgate policies, rules and regulations, do so carefully to only help the nation and its population. Reasonable people can agree that any government action should only have adverse effects and impacts upon nefarious and criminal persons. Once it is determined that any policy harms the innocent, even unintentionally, it begs to be corrected forthwith! Uh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanistical Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Caine said: Been wintering away for many years, I’m fit spend big money during my 5-6 months stay at top hotels. But last time for me I couldn’t give a toss what happens to Thailand or its people they have killed the Goose that lays the Golden Egg. And like Thousands of Geese I’m taking flight to more welcoming destinations and we ain’t flying back anytime soon. You welcome to the dog hole. I meant to include the esteemed commentator's 'contribution" - apologies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Yinn said: In pattaya right? ....Alone? hi Yinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 6:31 PM, Thailand said: Free flights and hotels and visas for quality Chinese and Indian tourists will do the trick. May not be good for revenue though. Buy one , get three free in the bar . Indian Quality tourists, value their money . Not same same stupid white faralang , give money away, buy house.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soikhaonoiken Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 The dreamers are at it again, why don't you get real TAT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinKal Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 19 hours ago, animalmagic said: I agree with you and am genuinely seeking knowledge, why is the baht so strong at the moment? The baht is a great place for investors to park the money they want to keep safe. Returns on other safe currencies are lower, in Germany negative. The track record is good. Staedy strengthening since the Tom Yum Gung crisis 1997. What makes it safe is the backing: balance of payments surplus (exports more than imports, in value); foreign exchange reserves significant (200 to 250 billion dollars). The Thai economy is slipping, but arent they all while China (the real offender) is being sorted. In summary. Why is the baht so strong? Because it is a safe place for international investors to park their money. It is worth noting that the Thai Central Bank has its hands tied as to manipulating the currency by fear of reprisals from the United States. ( doesn't want to be accused of being a currency manipulator and getting hit by sanctions.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitriv Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 1:10 PM, snoop1130 said: an increase in the numbers of agents and locations offering VAT refund service to foreign tourists Will this boost tourism ? I actually hoped that they would clean the sea so that I don't have to swim between the plastic next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, dimitriv said: Will this boost tourism ? I actually hoped that they would clean the sea so that I don't have to swim between the plastic next time. Operating in an alternative universe? Plastic in Asia and dumping of general waste in public areas is problematic. There seems to be a "missing link" between waste disposal, rodent control, and public health across the region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitriv Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, MartinKal said: It is worth noting that the Thai Central Bank has its hands tied as to manipulating the currency by fear of reprisals from the United States. ( doesn't want to be accused of being a currency manipulator and getting hit by sanctions.) There are many things they can do. But for some reason they don't do anything. It's easy to lower the interest. A negative interest will do the trick. I am not in favor of a negative interest rate. But if other countries have a negative interest you will get a flow of money to Thailand raising the exchange rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 6:10 PM, snoop1130 said: The council of the economic ministers today (October 11) approved in principle new measures, proposed by the Tourism and Sports Ministry, to enhance tourism in the short, medium, and long terms More desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatupThailand Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 hours ago, dimitriv said: Will this boost tourism ? I actually hoped that they would clean the sea so that I don't have to swim between the plastic next time. But the Plastic is Free Flotation Device, that you can take home. Everybody Wins..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 19 hours ago, BimBoon said: All I read was blah blah blah blah Oh come on, at least a handful of the previous posts on this thread where worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Interesting that tourism numbers over the last 3 years have been very close to equal (50% each) in 1st half Vs 2nd half. But this year, 2019, 2nd half numbers are forecasted to be 50% of 1st half numbers...if you believe 1st half 2019 numbers. That is a massive shortfall, and momentum will probably lead into 2020, indicating that tourism numbers could be significant lower than 41.8million forecast for next year. TAT have never really had to do anything in the past and now that they do, they are lost, focused on the wrong areas, and just tinkering around instead of thinking big. A new slogan must be due at any time now. Source: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/thailand/visitor-arrivals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So i guess the ones on the right side are yin and the left are yang. And so it all comes down to the don in the middle. Yes lets all make it as hard as possible for anyone who actually wants to be here and spend money. All in favore iiiiiiiiiiio ok then its settled tm 30 and visa rejections forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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