rooster59 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Ex-envoy tells impeachment inquiry Trump ousted her based on 'false claims' By Jonathan Landay and David Morgan Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch arrives to testify in the U.S. House of Representatives impeachment inquiry into U.S. President Trump on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., October 11, 2019. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine on Friday told a House of Representatives impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump that he ousted her based on "unfounded and false claims" after she had come under attack by his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Marie Yovanovitch, abruptly recalled as the U.S. envoy to Ukraine in May, appeared for a closed-door meeting with House members and staff, according to Democratic lawmakers leading the inquiry, after she had been told by the State Department at the behest of the White House not to show up. Lawmakers then issued a subpoena for her appearance and she complied. Yovanovitch, according to a copy of her opening statement posted online by U.S. media, said she was told by a senior State Department official about "a concerted campaign against me" and that Trump had pushed for her removal since the middle of 2018 even though the department believed "I had done nothing wrong." She expressed alarm over damage to American diplomacy under Trump and warned about "private interests" circumventing "professional diplomats for their own gain, not the public good." Yovanovitch's interview on Capitol Hill was continuing late on Friday afternoon after seven hours, with no word on when it might end. The impeachment inquiry focuses on a July 25 phone call in which Trump pressed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate a political rival, Democrat Joe Biden, and Biden's businessman son Hunter Biden. (Graphic: The impeachment inquiry , click https://tmsnrt.rs/30NregM) Giuliani has accused Yovanovitch of blocking efforts to persuade Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. The former New York mayor has said he provided information to both Trump and the State Department about Yovanovitch, who he suggested was biased against Trump. On Friday, Giuliani said: "I was doing it in my role as a defence lawyer" for Trump. In her statement, Yovanovitch said she did not know Giuliani's motives but that his associates "may well have believed that their personal financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in Ukraine." 'BRAVE WOMAN' Democrats have called her removal politically motivated. "She's a brave woman," Democratic Representative Michael Quigley said of Yovanovitch during a break in the testimony. According to a White House summary, Trump in his call to Zelenskiy said of Yovanovitch: "the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news." Zelenskiy agreed she was a "bad ambassador" and agreed to investigate the Bidens. The conversation occurred after Trump withheld $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine as it faces Russia-backed separatists in the eastern part of the country. "Although I understand that I served at the pleasure of the president, I was nevertheless incredulous that the U.S. government chose to remove an Ambassador based, as best as I can tell, on unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives," Yovanovitch said in her statement. Yovanovitch entered the Capitol complex for the deposition wearing dark glasses. She walked past a crowd of journalists without responding to questions. A career diplomat, her stint as envoy in Kiev was cut short when she was recalled to Washington as Trump allies levelled unsubstantiated charges of disloyalty. She has worked under both Republican and Democratic administrations. A senior Republican congressional aide described her as someone widely viewed as "professional." Democrats have accused Trump of pressuring a vulnerable ally to dig up dirt on a rival for his own political benefit. Biden, the former U.S. vice president, is a leading Democratic contender for the right to face Trump in the 2020 presidential election. Trump has denied wrongdoing. The investigation could lead to the approval of articles of impeachment - or formal charges against the president - in the House. A trial on whether to remove him from office would then be held in the Senate, where Trump's fellow Republicans who control the chamber have shown little appetite for ousting him. The chairmen of the three House committees leading the impeachment inquiry warned the administration against stonewalling. Any efforts to prevent witness cooperation will be deemed obstruction of Congress "and an adverse inference may be drawn against the President on the underlying allegations of corruption and cover-up," they said in a statement. 'MALIGN INTENTIONS' Yovanovitch warned about Russia's "malign intentions" toward Ukraine and said the United States allowing Russian actions toward its neighbour would "set a precedent that the United States will regret for decades to come." "Today, we see the State Department attacked and hollowed out from within. State Department leadership, with Congress, needs to take action now to defend this great institution, and its thousands of loyal and effective employees," she said. Yovanovitch said the notion she had been disloyal to Trump was "fictitious" and dismissed the idea that former Democratic President Barack Obama's administration had asked her to harm Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. Yovanovitch was the third key witness to appear in the impeachment inquiry. Committee leaders have scheduled depositions with more, including Fiona Hill, former senior director for European and Russian Affairs on Trump's National Security Council, as well as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and State Department Counsellor Ulrich Brechbuhl. In a letter to House colleagues on Friday, Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff said the committees leading the investigation expected to announce additional testimony from witnesses in the coming days and were prepared to issue more subpoenas. Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, will comply with a subpoena and testify on Thursday, his lawyers said, despite the White House policy against cooperation. But Sondland is not authorized to release documents the committees have sought, his lawyers said. On Thursday, two Florida businessmen - Ukraine-born Lev Parnas and Belarus-born Igor Fruman - who helped Giuliani as he investigated Biden were arrested in what U.S. prosecutors called a scheme to illegally funnel money to a pro-Trump election committee and other political candidates. Parnas sought the help of a U.S. congressman to get Trump to remove Yovanovitch, according to the indictment. (Reporting by Richard Cowan, Patricia Zengerle, Karen Freifeld, Susan Heavey, Jonathan Landay and David Morgan; Writing by Will Dunham and Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Alistair Bell and Grant McCool) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-10-12 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Good to see a person put country above president and ignore white house demand to refuse evidence. One can only hope more put their country first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 That house of cards is falling fast!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 She is way to professional for trump probably wouldn’t be a servile loyal tody and look the other way while Donald and his stooges try to rig the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I wonder how long it will take before the GOP politicians will abandon him. Everyday more bad news about him and his associates comes out. And it seems there will be more and more. Can the GOP politicians still support him when it's obvious that he broke the law many times? Suppose they would do that, do they want 4 more years with a guy who gets away with national security crimes? I am pretty sure (ok, I hope) that they will get rid of him before it gets even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 “On Thursday, two Florida businessmen - Ukraine-born Lev Parnas and Belarus-born Igor Fruman - who helped Giuliani as he investigated Biden were arrested in what U.S. prosecutors called a scheme to illegally funnel money to a pro-Trump election committee and other political candidates.” Under every rock there is criminality linked to Trump and his close associates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: She expressed alarm over damage to American diplomacy under Trump and warned about "private interests" circumventing "professional diplomats for their own gain, not the public good." She is right . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 It is now revealed by the NYT that Giuliani was being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by Florida businessmen - Ukraine-born Lev Parnas and Belarus-born Igor Fruman. Under every rock! Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Fancyzancy said: Draining the Swamp one Snowflake at a time. Using chopsticks... Lot more people than Trump and Giuliani involved, now all they have to do is work out who and start on the periphery with the ones who probably were collaborating under duress and will crack easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joloit Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Never argue with a fool (in this case “the most stable genius“)..... he will pull you down to his level and beat you with his experience!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 A troll post using a trolling representation of Trump's name has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCPhuket Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Fake president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Check out Biden Jr's sudden wealth based on his father's links in Ukraine and China. Pretty devastating when you examine it. In stead of pointing pout the already many times debunked information from your off topic post's information I just reported it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtom Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 So it looks like Trump was right right for once, the ukranian story is about corruption! Of his cronies. Sent from my BG2-U03 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracas Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Sujo said: One can only hope more put their country first. A Politician putting their country first...Now that would be a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Fanboyz ; Rebuttals 0 Sad Emojis 5. What better evidence that there is absolutely no defence of Trump's actions , yet still some stubbornly support him , unfathomable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Interesting tweet from Don Jr. back in March... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Swagman Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Hilarious and true to the cartoonish presidency that one ‘associate’ of the conspiring crowd is named ‘Igor’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Guardian has it right on point. The most xenephobic and isolationalist president. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/13/donald-trump-ukraine-turkey-impeachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Swamp creature. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 8:04 PM, OneMoreFarang said: I wonder how long it will take before the GOP politicians will abandon him. Everyday more bad news about him and his associates comes out. And it seems there will be more and more. Can the GOP politicians still support him when it's obvious that he broke the law many times? Suppose they would do that, do they want 4 more years with a guy who gets away with national security crimes? I am pretty sure (ok, I hope) that they will get rid of him before it gets even worse. Four more years is a scary thought. As brazen as Trump is now, a "win" would magnify his brazenness to unimaginable and intolerable heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Take time to read her opening statement, it’s stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 9:46 PM, Chomper Higgot said: It is now revealed by the NYT that Giuliani was being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by Florida businessmen - Ukraine-born Lev Parnas and Belarus-born Igor Fruman. Under every rock! Nothing to hide, nothing to fear. Wow, an attorney got paid by people who needed one? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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