Jump to content
BANGKOK
rooster59

Graves desecrated at Commonwealth war cemetery in Israel

Recommended Posts

9 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Is it possible that Israeli kids are becoming conditioned (and perhaps traumatised) by the unceasing holocaust narrative and are growing up fearful that all westerners are potential Nazis?

I don't think so.

Consider that expatriating to Berlin is popular with young Israelis. 

Edited by Jingthing
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Is it possible that Israeli kids are becoming conditioned (and perhaps traumatised) by the unceasing holocaust narrative and are growing up fearful that all westerners are potential Nazis?

Highly unlikely , probably just delinquents with a spray can

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Is it possible that Israeli kids are becoming conditioned (and perhaps traumatised) by the unceasing holocaust narrative and are growing up fearful that all westerners are potential Nazis?

They would have to be extremely dim to think that soldiers who died fighting the Nazis...................were Nazis .

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think so.

Consider that expatriating to Berlin is popular with young Israelis. 

I won't comment on the irony of that, but I was thinking of 10-13 year olds who are surely growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The law of return has led to some wired situations where the children of  Russian immigrants in particular have formed neo nazi cells - in Israel. 

 

Also just plain historical fact that modern Israel basically had to blast the Brits out before it could be formed, so easy enough to imagine the graves being targeted by ultra nationalists. 

 

The reality is however, who knows!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, sanemax said:

They would have to be extremely dim to think that soldiers who died fighting the Nazis...................were Nazis .

Or maybe it's just a question of westerners being 'not one of us'?

I would like to know what all those graffiti symbols mean. Some are presumably Christian crosses, so the target is not just Nazis.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

I won't comment on the irony of that, but I was thinking of 10-13 year olds who are surely growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance.

What are you basing that on ?

What are you basing the statement that "Israeli kids are growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance" ?"

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

I won't comment on the irony of that, but I was thinking of 10-13 year olds who are surely growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance.

Why is that "ironic" 

World War 2 finished 75 years ago and the worlds moved on since then 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Why is that "ironic" 

World War 2 finished 75 years ago and the worlds moved on since then 

Agree...who really cares?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, sanemax said:

What are you basing that on ?

What are you basing the statement that "Israeli kids are growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance" ?"

Kindly do not twist my words. It was not a statement but a hypothesis. I made that very clear.

It's psychology. I am open to correction but it seems to me that the holocaust still looms large in Jewish society, and if that is the incessant backdrop to growing up, of course it will affect kids' way of thinking about the world.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Why is that "ironic" 

World War 2 finished 75 years ago and the worlds moved on since then 

It's ironic because of all the trouble Israelis went to to create their own state.

And, by the way, it's rather naive to assume the world has moved on so much as you think. There's ample evidence of Nazism in today's Germany.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

I won't comment on the irony of that, but I was thinking of 10-13 year olds who are surely growing up conditioned to have a sense of grievance.

I don't think you know much about Israeli culture. It's different than diaspora Jewish culture. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Right now, some kids are probably laughing at the attention they're getting. If you were to quiz them on the symbols they used, they'd know just enough to know people would be <deleted> off.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

World War 2 finished 75 years ago and the worlds moved on since then 

 

32 minutes ago, sanemax said:

They would have to be extremely dim to think that soldiers who died fighting the Nazis...................were Nazis .

They weren't fighting Nazis, this was WW1, fighting the Ottoman Empire, I've a great uncle buried somewhere out there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think you know much about Israeli culture. It's different than diaspora Jewish culture. 

So they've completely gotten over the holocaust in Israel? It's never mentioned on TV?

Don't they have a Holocaust Remembrance Day public holiday?

 

Edited by JamesBlond

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...